TheKingEast
Senior Member
I wouldn't be surprised if those units are vacant. Noise from concrete ceilings is pretty common.
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I wouldn't be surprised if those units are vacant. Noise from concrete ceilings is pretty common.
modernizt
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Can you name any Toronto condo projects from recent years that don't have "concrete ceilings"? That's how all recent projects are built; concrete slab. If you think the way your ceiling is treated makes a big difference, you are kidding yourself. It's not as though condos use drop ceilings or heavy insulation up there.
Unless you are just on a crusade here, explain to me how a finished ceiling in your unit would make a dramatic difference in sound transfer than a "concrete ceiling".
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TheKingEast
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EXPOSED concrete ceilings. UD brought up RAW concrete...so that's what the conversation's about. Learn to follow along before making smart comments. Concrete tends to amplify impact noise, especially if not treated properly. If expressing this makes me a crusader....then so be it.
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The unit upstairs is lived in. It has less to do with the concrete ceiling and more to do with the cushioning between the floor and the slab.
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TheKingEast
Senior Member
Cushioning. Again, if the developer does a good job you're in great shape. If they don't (which is common now) then you're not. By the way. I've seen the "cushioning" some developers use. No thicker than a piece of paper.
Let's agree to disagree and jump back on topic.
So you want to disagree that these apartments are quiet? Sure, live in whatever world you want to.
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TheKingEast
Senior Member
That's not what I said. I made a general comment about exposed concrete and you took issue with it (of course). If you want to argue against physics then by all means go ahead.
NBGtect
Active Member
Of course, the sound transmission through raw concrete is worse than through concrete with a dry wall ceiling and a good cushion in the flooring above. We hear everything with our noisy neighbours who drop things all the time. If developer's 'finish' the ceiling it's nothing more than a skim coat nowadays, but Tridel and Plaza still use drywall I believe that significantly reduces noise transmission. I know of higher end units that put on a double layer of drywall That's ideal but costly. To do this right, the ceiling heights have to be built higher which would cost more, obviously.
Not sure why raw concrete benefits anyone except the developer who play off the marketing scheme and says it's 'cool' and 'loft-like'. NO, it's just plain cheap and absorbs so much artificial light at night making one's place dark. So vampires may enjoy this.
But I guess we should be happy with a $400k concrete box nowadays. To get it finished ideally would cost money and we live in the city anyway and should expect constant noise from neighbours through our concrete walls. Let's just hope the exposed concrete looks good and doesn't have a worker's glove in the ceiling like in my neighbours lol. Thanks Bluescape construction for your glove. Adds a real nice touch to a S+P design. NOT
Not sure why raw concrete benefits anyone except the developer who play off the marketing scheme and says it's 'cool' and 'loft-like'. NO, it's just plain cheap and absorbs so much artificial light at night making one's place dark. So vampires may enjoy this.
But I guess we should be happy with a $400k concrete box nowadays. To get it finished ideally would cost money and we live in the city anyway and should expect constant noise from neighbours through our concrete walls. Let's just hope the exposed concrete looks good and doesn't have a worker's glove in the ceiling like in my neighbours lol. Thanks Bluescape construction for your glove. Adds a real nice touch to a S+P design. NOT
TheKingEast
Senior Member
I agree that the loft look benefits developers as it is less costly. They can also leave things in a rough unfinished state and call it character. That said, I like the look when done right. Of the units I have seen here, the developer has done a pretty good job.
urbandreamer
recession proof
I think the raw concrete aesthetic is too sophisticated for your average condo resident. The glove in the concrete is a classic example of pure industrial chic--love it!
It reminds me of the River City thread where residents whined about the "unfinished look." ha.
Architect/designers types love the purity of concrete undisguised by generic drywall. Although one feature wall with a retro Victorian wallpaper design would look fantastic against the concrete.
It reminds me of the River City thread where residents whined about the "unfinished look." ha.
Architect/designers types love the purity of concrete undisguised by generic drywall. Although one feature wall with a retro Victorian wallpaper design would look fantastic against the concrete.
Red October
Senior Member
And then they can charge a premium for it!
From yesterday:
Kinky Boots Condo (such a good show!):
Close-up on the podium. Lots to look at more closely.
Water feature. Looks like it might splash over the upper lip. Do we assume there will be lights installed in the water, pointing up through it to have shadows dance on the wall behind and above the sculpture?
Front door, or hole waiting for front door. View through to Pearl Street.
Morimoto space, mostly obscured by reflection:
The gap between the podium and the theatre. The concrete will be clad.
Looking back down into the courtyard.
One last thing: maybe the most interesting and promising podium glazing in Toronto:
A little better angle:
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Kinky Boots Condo (such a good show!):
Close-up on the podium. Lots to look at more closely.
Water feature. Looks like it might splash over the upper lip. Do we assume there will be lights installed in the water, pointing up through it to have shadows dance on the wall behind and above the sculpture?
Front door, or hole waiting for front door. View through to Pearl Street.
Morimoto space, mostly obscured by reflection:
The gap between the podium and the theatre. The concrete will be clad.
Looking back down into the courtyard.
One last thing: maybe the most interesting and promising podium glazing in Toronto:
A little better angle:
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Benito
Senior Member
Great photos, thanks for the update. I found out the other day that a friend of mine is moving into Theatre Park. I hope to see his place someday.
kris
Senior Member
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