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Im trying to figure what this is all about...but as stated, sounds like they are reducing the number of resident, library and retail parking spaces on Block-36 and transfering it onto Block-32 (TCHC 41 storey bldg.) in order to increase the height of the 29-storey Library District Condo
24. 170 FORT YORK BLVD
File Number: A0503/11TEY Zoning G & CR Block 36 (WAIVER) Owner(s): TORONTO COMMUNITY Ward: Trinity-Spadina (20) HOUSING CORPORATION Agent: DAVID BRONSKILL
GOODMANS LLP Property Address: 170 FORT YORK BLVD Community: Legal Description: PLAN D970 PT LOT 20 PLAN D1397 PT BLK R RP 66R16838 PARTS 4 AND 36 RP
64R14891 PARTS 44 AND 45
PURPOSE OF THE APPLICATION:
To modify the redevelopment plan approved under By-law 1994-0805 as amended by By-law 1073-2006. The proposal includes a 29-storey residential condominium tower on the east lot; a three-storey amenity building with retail space on the first floor on the east lot; a three-storey public library on the west lot; and a two-level underground parking garage located across both lots. The applicant seeks to reduce the number of resident, library and retail parking spaces; to increase the height of the 29-storey mixed use building; and to permit a portion of the parking area, public library and parking garage to extend beyond Block 36 onto Block 32.
REQUESTED VARIANCE(S) TO THE ZONING BY-LAW:
1. Section 5.(1)(a), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
The proposed uses of a parking area, public library and parking garage are not permitted on a lot zoned G. A surface parking area containing 2 parking spaces is proposed to be located partially on lands zoned G. A portion of the library block and underground parking garage extends onto lands zoned G.
2. Section 7. Part I – Subsections (1). & (2), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
Non-residential gross floor area is not permitted on Block 36, except that a maximum of 2500 m² of non-residential gross floor area is permitted provided the floor area is used for one or more specified community services, cultural and arts facilities. There will be 1450 m² of non-residential gross floor area for library use (permitted) and
265.16 m² of non-residential gross floor area for retail use (not permitted).
3. Section 4.(5)(a), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
The minimum required parking spaces is 191 parking spaces for residents, 22 parking spaces for
visitors, 2 parking spaces for retail use, and 8 parking spaces for the public library.
There will be 169 parking spaces for residents, 22 spaces for visitors, zero (0) parking spaces
for retail and zero (0) spaces for the public library provided.
4. Section 7 Part II(3)(b), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
The minimum required setback for a building on Block 36 is 2.0 m from the west lot line. The proposed library is set back 0.0 m from the west lot line.
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5. Section 4.(7), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
There shall be a minimum of 728 m² of indoor residential amenity space and 728 m² of outdoor
residential amenity space.
There will be 825 m² of indoor residential amenity space and 264.2 m² of outdoor residential
amenity space provided.
6. Section 4.(6)(a), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
There shall be 1 Loading Space – Type B, to be provided on the lot and readily accessible from
a street abutting the lot for public library use.
In this case, there will be 1 Loading Space – Type B, located partially on the adjacent (east) lot,
and accessed by way of the adjacent (east) lot for public library use.
7. Section 10. (16)(c), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
A colonnade, in accordance with the standards in section 7 Part II 6(i)A, B and C, or a canopy,
in accordance with the standards in section 7 PART II 6(ii)A and B, shall be provided above the
entrance to a retail unit or the entrance to a lobby area in a building containing more than 10
dwelling units, for the full width of such entrance.
Along the south elevation, above the entrances to the retail units and to the condominium lobby,
no such colonnade or canopy will be provided.
8. Section 7 Part II (4)(c), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
The building height is limited to a maximum elevation of 110.0 metres geodetic datum. The proposed tower rises to a height elevation of 180.95 metres geodetic datum.
9. Section 10.(11)(i)(i), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
The maximum permitted building height is 20 m.
The proposed building height of the tower is 97.42 m, including a 9.45 m mechanical
penthouse.
10. Section 10.(16)(a), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
A colonnade, in accordance with the standards in section 7 PART II 6(i)A, B and C, or a
canopy, in accordance with the standards in section 7 PART II 6(ii)A and B, shall be provided
above any terrace provided on Block 36.
There will be no such colonnade or canopy above the library terrace.
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http://www.toronto.ca/planning/pdf/cofa_tey_agenda_28sep11_pm.pdf
Back in April 12 2010
City Final Report – 150 and 170 Fort York Boulevard
(Blocks 32 and 36 of the Railway Lands West
http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2010/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-29369.pdf
24. 170 FORT YORK BLVD
File Number: A0503/11TEY Zoning G & CR Block 36 (WAIVER) Owner(s): TORONTO COMMUNITY Ward: Trinity-Spadina (20) HOUSING CORPORATION Agent: DAVID BRONSKILL
GOODMANS LLP Property Address: 170 FORT YORK BLVD Community: Legal Description: PLAN D970 PT LOT 20 PLAN D1397 PT BLK R RP 66R16838 PARTS 4 AND 36 RP
64R14891 PARTS 44 AND 45
PURPOSE OF THE APPLICATION:
To modify the redevelopment plan approved under By-law 1994-0805 as amended by By-law 1073-2006. The proposal includes a 29-storey residential condominium tower on the east lot; a three-storey amenity building with retail space on the first floor on the east lot; a three-storey public library on the west lot; and a two-level underground parking garage located across both lots. The applicant seeks to reduce the number of resident, library and retail parking spaces; to increase the height of the 29-storey mixed use building; and to permit a portion of the parking area, public library and parking garage to extend beyond Block 36 onto Block 32.
REQUESTED VARIANCE(S) TO THE ZONING BY-LAW:
1. Section 5.(1)(a), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
The proposed uses of a parking area, public library and parking garage are not permitted on a lot zoned G. A surface parking area containing 2 parking spaces is proposed to be located partially on lands zoned G. A portion of the library block and underground parking garage extends onto lands zoned G.
2. Section 7. Part I – Subsections (1). & (2), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
Non-residential gross floor area is not permitted on Block 36, except that a maximum of 2500 m² of non-residential gross floor area is permitted provided the floor area is used for one or more specified community services, cultural and arts facilities. There will be 1450 m² of non-residential gross floor area for library use (permitted) and
265.16 m² of non-residential gross floor area for retail use (not permitted).
3. Section 4.(5)(a), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
The minimum required parking spaces is 191 parking spaces for residents, 22 parking spaces for
visitors, 2 parking spaces for retail use, and 8 parking spaces for the public library.
There will be 169 parking spaces for residents, 22 spaces for visitors, zero (0) parking spaces
for retail and zero (0) spaces for the public library provided.
4. Section 7 Part II(3)(b), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
The minimum required setback for a building on Block 36 is 2.0 m from the west lot line. The proposed library is set back 0.0 m from the west lot line.
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5. Section 4.(7), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
There shall be a minimum of 728 m² of indoor residential amenity space and 728 m² of outdoor
residential amenity space.
There will be 825 m² of indoor residential amenity space and 264.2 m² of outdoor residential
amenity space provided.
6. Section 4.(6)(a), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
There shall be 1 Loading Space – Type B, to be provided on the lot and readily accessible from
a street abutting the lot for public library use.
In this case, there will be 1 Loading Space – Type B, located partially on the adjacent (east) lot,
and accessed by way of the adjacent (east) lot for public library use.
7. Section 10. (16)(c), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
A colonnade, in accordance with the standards in section 7 Part II 6(i)A, B and C, or a canopy,
in accordance with the standards in section 7 PART II 6(ii)A and B, shall be provided above the
entrance to a retail unit or the entrance to a lobby area in a building containing more than 10
dwelling units, for the full width of such entrance.
Along the south elevation, above the entrances to the retail units and to the condominium lobby,
no such colonnade or canopy will be provided.
8. Section 7 Part II (4)(c), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
The building height is limited to a maximum elevation of 110.0 metres geodetic datum. The proposed tower rises to a height elevation of 180.95 metres geodetic datum.
9. Section 10.(11)(i)(i), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
The maximum permitted building height is 20 m.
The proposed building height of the tower is 97.42 m, including a 9.45 m mechanical
penthouse.
10. Section 10.(16)(a), By-law 1994-0805 as amended
A colonnade, in accordance with the standards in section 7 PART II 6(i)A, B and C, or a
canopy, in accordance with the standards in section 7 PART II 6(ii)A and B, shall be provided
above any terrace provided on Block 36.
There will be no such colonnade or canopy above the library terrace.
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http://www.toronto.ca/planning/pdf/cofa_tey_agenda_28sep11_pm.pdf
Back in April 12 2010
City Final Report – 150 and 170 Fort York Boulevard
(Blocks 32 and 36 of the Railway Lands West
http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2010/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-29369.pdf
cruzin4u
Senior Member
I counted 22 floors, including podium. I'm probably off, so I guess it's safe to say another 20+ stories to go.
SP!RE
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I have a thing for social housing... so I'll be very curious to see what the interiors of the units and common spaces look like in this building when it's completed 
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They are making incredibly fast progress!
.They are making incredibly fast progress!
Tuscani01
Senior Member
I have a thing for social housing... so I'll be very curious to see what the interiors of the units and common spaces look like in this building when it's completed
They are making incredibly fast progress!
Were are trying to organize an open house for the neighbourhood once construction is complete, so everyone can see what it looks like, and how it will add to the community. Ill post details here when the time comes.
SP!RE
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That would be awesome!
tkip
Active Member
Hands down this project is the best looking thing down by the waterfront as far as towers go and beats all of the Cityplace towers handily. Concord could have learned from this.
hawc
Senior Member
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Torontovibe
Senior Member
I don't know much about the construction business or building materials, so my questions might sound quite uninformed. (OK, stupid lol) .
I've heard many people on here comment about developers cheapening out by switching the cladding to a low quality precast or concrete. The Uptown, which was supposed to be an upscale building has some cheap-looking, unattractive precast, yet this TCHC building, which I assume, costs a lot less to build, seems to have much better precast. Would the cost and quality of Uptown's precast be more expensive or cheaper than this building? Is this precast cheap quality or the more expensive type? Why does this social housing building look so good? Is red brick cladding much more expensive than precast or glass? (I know there is different qualities of glass, I mean generally) Are concrete and stucco the cheapest kinds of cladding, generally? Do any of you guys/gals know about cladding and what it costs?
I'm just curious how this TCHC building, which one would think was the cheapest to build, is turning out to be the best building in Cityplace? How does that happen? I'm NOT complaining about it. Actually, I'm quite happy it's happening, I just want to understand how it happens. Does anybody have any insight to cladding and its cost?
I've heard many people on here comment about developers cheapening out by switching the cladding to a low quality precast or concrete. The Uptown, which was supposed to be an upscale building has some cheap-looking, unattractive precast, yet this TCHC building, which I assume, costs a lot less to build, seems to have much better precast. Would the cost and quality of Uptown's precast be more expensive or cheaper than this building? Is this precast cheap quality or the more expensive type? Why does this social housing building look so good? Is red brick cladding much more expensive than precast or glass? (I know there is different qualities of glass, I mean generally) Are concrete and stucco the cheapest kinds of cladding, generally? Do any of you guys/gals know about cladding and what it costs?
I'm just curious how this TCHC building, which one would think was the cheapest to build, is turning out to be the best building in Cityplace? How does that happen? I'm NOT complaining about it. Actually, I'm quite happy it's happening, I just want to understand how it happens. Does anybody have any insight to cladding and its cost?
taal
Senior Member
These comments are tiresome ... while this may indeed have the best base of any cityplace building to date there is a lot of merit to many of the other city place buildings (developed by concord) that I guratee you would be praized if they were build alone in any other part of the city.
Take the vertical strips of glass on Luna is it ? along the entire concave south face of the building ... it's stunning.
Take the vertical strips of glass on Luna is it ? along the entire concave south face of the building ... it's stunning.
MDV3
Active Member
Cityplace just shows us what a glass neighborhood looks like..... i agree that if each of the buildings were scattered throughout the city than people may actually appreciate them more......
condovo
Senior Member
+1. Neo and Montage are pretty stellar too.
SP!RE
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Oh for God's sake, Torontovibe was asking a very good, relevant question. Instead of going on about what quality or cheapness some cladding is (or looks like it is), he is wondering if anyone really knows real cost comparisons of different types of precast, window wall, brick systems, etc...
I'd be interested to hear a real answer, Cityplace-bashing and Cityplace-glorifying aside.
I'd be interested to hear a real answer, Cityplace-bashing and Cityplace-glorifying aside.
taal
Senior Member
I'm actually very curious as well ...
But he clearly stated it was the best of the bunch ... my reply wasn't really meant to attack his individual post but rather all the city place bashing that takes place here.
Tuscani01
Senior Member
Nothing wrong with his opinion that it is the best of the bunch. I agree with him. It is so far my favourite building in the neighbourhood and its not even done yet. He never said any of the other buildings in Cityplace were garbage.
PS. I live in Luna, so don't say im just another one trying to trash Cityplace.
PS. I live in Luna, so don't say im just another one trying to trash Cityplace.