Toronto Sugar Wharf Condominiums (Phase 1) | 231m | 70s | Menkes | a—A

Bjays92 said:
I'm not saying this is bad, but it definitely feels underwhelming for the waterfront. As do a lot of buildings around here.
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Could not agree more. A bland wall of mediocre condos along the waterfront was a big mistake. We should have done something more akin to what Chicago has done with their central waterfront. This will be the face of Toronto for decades to come!
 
Feb 28
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C-mac said:
Funny because I'm starting to feel the opposite. These building are growing on me.
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I guess the problem is they just feel sterile soulless and monolithic. If it was a 230m infill project downtown, sure it's fine, but this area was industrial wasteland, and now it feels like supertall tower wasteland.

There's just nothing happening here that makes you want to go to this part of the city. It's the antithesis of big city feel, it's like suburban supertalls I guess that's my issue.

They had a chance to transform this part of the city from block wide industrial buildings into a lively district, with small shops, interesting streets etc. Instead, we have block wide glass podiums with skyscrapers on top. Ironically Daniel's waterfront, the worst building of the bunch, is the only building that offers any reason to go this way.
 
Bjays92 said:
I guess the problem is they just feel sterile soulless and monolithic. If it was a 230m infill project downtown, sure it's fine, but this area was industrial wasteland, and now it feels like supertall tower wasteland.

There's just nothing happening here that makes you want to go to this part of the city. It's the antithesis of big city feel, it's like suburban supertalls I guess that's my issue.

They had a chance to transform this part of the city from block wide industrial buildings into a lively district, with small shops, interesting streets etc. Instead, we have block wide glass podiums with skyscrapers on top. Ironically Daniel's waterfront, the worst building of the bunch, is the only building that offers any reason to go this way.
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A 21st century St. James Town emerges - on the waterfront no less.
 
Bjays92 said:
I guess the problem is they just feel sterile soulless and monolithic. If it was a 230m infill project downtown, sure it's fine, but this area was industrial wasteland, and now it feels like supertall tower wasteland.

There's just nothing happening here that makes you want to go to this part of the city. It's the antithesis of big city feel, it's like suburban supertalls I guess that's my issue.

They had a chance to transform this part of the city from block wide industrial buildings into a lively district, with small shops, interesting streets etc. Instead, we have block wide glass podiums with skyscrapers on top. Ironically Daniel's waterfront, the worst building of the bunch, is the only building that offers any reason to go this way.
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Agreed. This is a failure at the human scale which is largely what matters when things are said and done.
 
I think there's a certain beauty in these towers' sterility. But then again, I come from the design perspective that less, is often, more. I can tell you that there are a lot of cities that only wish they have this level of development: sterile or not.
 
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