Lone Primate
Active Member
Someone at Major Mac could just use the GO network
I used the GO network, for years. If you haven't, then you'll just have to take my word for the following:
There is no comparison to be made between the GO Train and the subway.
why should Toronto worry about a couple 000 at most in exurbia
"Hundreds"? "At most"? Where are dialing in from, 1850? Almost all the growth in what we think of as "Toronto" is outside 416. If "Metro" itself has grown by more than 100,000 this decade, I'd be surprised. All I seem to hear about here is how bad cars are, oh, get people out of cars. But the minute it means doing anything to promote that, well, hell, it's 1970 all over again. Yay, we killed the Spadina! Aw, screw the subway, who cares! We killed the road! Yeah, and then people south of Eglinton wonder why they have so much traffic going through their surface streets. Honest to God, it makes you wonder if we have a future as a species. The subway went no further north than Wilson for ages; now it ends at Sheppard. God, if you're going to take your car virtually to the 401, at that point, what's the difference? The idea, if you want to get cars off the road, is to get public transit out to where people are. And sorry, increasingly these days, that's 905. The other alternative is neglect public transit or make it so onerous to use it that the jobs pull out of 416. What do you think Vaughan's been growing on for the past 30 years? Toronto's "let 'em drink cake" attitude.
If the Sheppard Line veered up into Markham, maybe, MAYBE then the line would reach capacity
Oh, don't you worry about Sheppard; I've SEEN what's going up on Sheppard. I've seen the blocks of single family homes about to be bulldozed in favour of the 15-20 story condos. Subways really are a matter of if you build it, they will come. I'm personally not a big fan of using public transit (sue me; I did it, I hated it), but if I worked downtown, I'd be taking the subway, not driving. But if I had to waste all morning on that GO Train again, screw it... I drove then, I'd drive now. It's AWFUL.