A few things with respect to some basic spatial considerations:
> The Jays currently have *two* "temporary" stadiums, both of which they have played regular season MLB games in -- and to which they made tens of millions of dollars-worth of upgrades to facilitate -- within the last ±2 years.
> Square footage of extant facilities:
- Lamport Stadium: ±170K
- BMO Field: ±260K
- Rogers Centre: ±460K
The Rogers Centre is BIG. Massive. Even if you assume that a brand new stadium would be smaller (as is the trend for some of the newer ballparks), you need a LOT of space for it (to say nothing of space for pedestrian circulation/gathering/events, etc.). By way of comparison, the square footage of newer, now much-beloved MLB ballparks:
- Petco Park (San Diego): ±400K
- Oracle Park (San Francisco): ±422K
- Target Field (Minneapolis): ±440K
- Camden Yards (Baltimore): ±460K
- PNC Park (Pittsburgh): ±480K
- T-Mobile Park (Seattle): ±600K
The Rogers Centre Replacement Fantasies thread has been created here with several posts moved to it.We may need to separate this thread into long-term/fantasy vs. current development like we did with the subway thread in transportation, especially given it is a real project now. Before that happens though, personal attacks will be deleted - as a large swath of them were.
I assume they are going to be "ripping out the lower bowl", and it will be interesting to see what they plan to do. They are limited by having to still fit into the rest of the existing stadium. If the new lower bowl seating will rise at a greater angle as it gets farther away from the field, it could block the view from the 200 level, unless the front of it is moved farther away back from the field, which would not be desirable.phase 2 of the renovations ( the 100 level) hasn't even been unveiled now... these renos are going to take 3 years (initially 2, but probably 4). Shapiro has admitted this is a MASSIVE renovation...
Yeah this is the big issue some people are missing. Rogers doesn't own the land, and it's only zoned for a stadium. To build any sort of new Rogers HQ or condos with a new stadium, they'd need to get the lease for the land changed to allow for any of that. And let's be real, there's not gonna be some kind of huge public support for "give Rogers cheap/free land to build a new HQ and condos" just so we can have a new stadium. So it would probably end up costing Rogers a bunch of money to get the lease changed, let alone how much it would cost if they actually tried to buy the land the Skydome sits on.They know they don't own the land and it's federal land. They also know that taxpayers won't foot the bill. They also know it'll cost a fortune to tear that thing down. This renovation is buying them lots of time to get creative her and figure out what to do. there was an initial proposal that involved some condos that are on these federal lands. that's a creative way to bankroll this but would probably need the support for it.
Similarly, there is no reason to assume 100 level will be one big set of rows, just because that's what we've been used to. Like the outfield seats, they could add decks/patios or other unique areas. (Indeed, the outfield seat renderings show something along those lines in the RF corner, in particular.)