jxmyth_
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It’s almost like we’re going to use GoFundMe and make each self-contained element a stretch goal. “Greta job guys! If we just raise $5k more we get a (one) bench!”
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It’s almost like we’re going to use GoFundMe and make each self-contained element a stretch goal. “Greta job guys! If we just raise $5k more we get a (one) bench!”
rdaner
Senior Member
Maybe! Lol But what I have heard of the cultural centre is that there are private tours being given to very interested parties that want to see something ‘significant’ at that spot.
Northern Light
Superstar
Yes, there are people being pitched and people making pitches..........but we're some distance from a deal worth doing, let alone a done deal.
Canada's billionaire class, by and large are stingy sorts, who piece meal out a few million here and there.
Which is to say, not the kind that allow for excellence.
There are exceptions..........but if you want 'greatness' in a facility, both in the building and the operation, the budget is at the very least in the hundreds of millions and a lead donor really needs to eat 1/2.
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jxmyth_
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Hrm… but also, I have no idea what interested parties would make me feel good about the prospects. Rich donors who’d write initial cheques, ensure something wacky, then forget to pay? Federal reps who want the riding back, but will have to distance themselves from too much city money come election time cuz they need to win Napanee as well? Great Gulf/Dream/CF? Maybe Google has some ideas for the silos
Fingers crossed for positive news, would love to see some sort of cultural anchor, like the Harbourfront Centre or Toronto Museum.
goodcitywhenfinished
Active Member
Vancouver's new H&deM designed art gallery is I believe 1/3 funded by donation. Whatever gets built here there will probably be a federal and provincial contribution to top it off.
Personally, I think a museum of the great lakes would be interesting. Different than the one in Kingston and more focused on archaeological history, industrial and pre-industrial history, and maybe even a section dedicated to marine life in the lakes with aquariums etc. Probably too boring for the avg person to generate enough interest though.
jxmyth_
Senior Member
I need a statue for the Knapp Roller.
But really. Imagine they built something like this
Make it like a Wychwood Barns or Brickworks with event space for community stuff, have some permanent exhibits on the lakes, Portlands, etc. Obviously doesn’t need the same footprint as a shipyard. Though I suppose before we think about community cultural spots we should see how the Daniels Artscape building is doing. Anyone know if they still have community arts programming there?
But really. Imagine they built something like this
Make it like a Wychwood Barns or Brickworks with event space for community stuff, have some permanent exhibits on the lakes, Portlands, etc. Obviously doesn’t need the same footprint as a shipyard. Though I suppose before we think about community cultural spots we should see how the Daniels Artscape building is doing. Anyone know if they still have community arts programming there?
AlvinofDiaspar
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They will need something more inspiring than that - and Harbourfront Centre is mired in some existential angst right now. What's the sell? So far nothing in the public domain inspires much confidence as to the "case" for such a building, much less excitement.
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reinventingthewheel
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rdaner
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Some additional info/images from DRP presentation.
Also of great interest is the use of Halifax based MLSA who did the great Queens Marquee development. I expect very good things from them!
www.mlsarchitects.ca
Also of great interest is the use of Halifax based MLSA who did the great Queens Marquee development. I expect very good things from them!
Queen's Marque - MacKay-Lyons Sweetapple Architects
This is an urban design project, rebuilding the waterfront at the original landing place where Halifax began in 1749. The re-establishment of the fine-grained pier building fabric creates microclimates and public gathering places, contrasting the current trend of object buildings recently...
www.mlsarchitects.ca
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AlvinofDiaspar
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That must be the figurative *asterisk* instead of the more historical fig leaf.
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abovegrade
Active Member
God man I really hope so! I was really afraid that it would just turn into a school, which was contemplated as an option for the site. We could really use something cultural here to attract people here.
abovegrade
Active Member
Also - i'm not sure I am loving the canopy around the pools, blocking the view of the pool from the waterfront promenade. It seems like a barrier and this portion of the proposal looks kind of drab from a design standpoint.
rdaner
Senior Member
If I had a vote I would go with a facility combining a library and a theatre. As someone who has lived in a few large cities of different ages and in different regions I have to say one of this city’s true contributions to urban living is the great job we do with making libraries a vital community resource! The theatre is a given because it brings people together and the combination of the two would make for a project large enough to have an international competition and several donors.
isaidso
Senior Member
Even though it's considered more low brow/plebeian, a cinema would probably bring in more traffic than a theatre. There are lots of film studios in the area too so a cinema would build on what's already there.