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March 15th Update

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Murano assignments

seen them too and done much better then posted. nonetheless, once a bldg registers (may take a while since south tower far from completion - unless 2 condo corps) expect more listings, this time publicly available for comparison, price pressure down until inventory clears and prices stabilize according to market demands or elasticity i.e. the effect of moving from a closed/exclusive market to an open/mls system.

if you've followed the verve you'll notice the pattern. in short prices can be somewhat predicted for murano and others.
 
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It really is a shame that such a prominent park (north of Queen's Park) is in such a terrible state. I mean, when I've walk around London, and run into these beautifully maintained parks (like Bedford Square near the British Museum), it's such a delightful experience. I wish I could say the same about this park.
 
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It really is a shame that such a prominent park (north of Queen's Park) is in such a terrible state. I mean, when I've walk around London, and run into these beautifully maintained parks (like Bedford Park near the British Museum), it's such a delightful experience. I wish I could say the same about this park.


What's wrong with Queen's Park?
It's not bad from what I see although it's a bit brown from the mud and lack of foliage on the trees.

How does Bedford Park compare - I've never been.
 
What's wrong with Queen's Park?
It's not bad from what I see although it's a bit brown from the mud and lack of foliage on the trees.

How does Bedford Park compare - I've never been.

A few observations:
Some of the benches are in a bad state.
The grass in some areas isn't doing to well.

That's it really! There's not much you can do about the second part ... the main reason is people walking on them which you can't do much about :)
 
Queen's Park is well maintained and well used. Lots of festivals take place there on weekends in the summer and is otherwise well used by locals. There are nice gardens at each formal entrance and even a water feature at the S/W corner of the park.
Agreed that the benches are nearing the end of their life. The only grass which suffers (that I can recall) is that which is shaded from direct sunlight from tree coverage throughout the day.
 
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We've just had winter so of course the ground will be muddy and the grass hasn't seeded yet!

True about the benches but that's all I see. I think instead of painting them, the boards should be changed to stained cedar - it's mildew/mold resistant, smells nice and looks aesthetically better.
 
What's wrong with Queen's Park?
It's not bad from what I see although it's a bit brown from the mud and lack of foliage on the trees.

How does Bedford Park compare - I've never been.

A few photos from Flickr of:
Bedford Square
http://www.flickr.com/photos/patrick_john_quinn/410497047/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bendystraw/111725906/
Russell Square:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbush/2477820688/in/pool-611887@N24
http://www.flickr.com/photos/drumaboy/2176376988/in/pool-611887@N24
Berkeley Square:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/drumaboy/3323029480/in/pool-611887@N24
Gordon Square:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fictiondreamer/2284216787/in/pool-611887@N24
Grosvenor Square:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/drumaboy/3016674230/in/pool-611887@N24
Golden Square:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/michael_and_sarah/162602820/in/pool-611887@N24
Soho Square:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jrth/5546912/in/pool-611887@N24

I've been to the place in the height of summer, and apart from the leaves in the tress and greener vegetation, the place looks exactly the same; that is, no attention to detailing, dirt tracks all over, dray patches of grass, old deteriorated street furniture (benches), dead trees, and in general, a look that is far from a manicured look that other parks have.
 
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A few photos from Flickr of:
Bedford Square
http://www.flickr.com/photos/patrick_john_quinn/410497047/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bendystraw/111725906/
Russell Square:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbush/2477820688/in/pool-611887@N24
http://www.flickr.com/photos/drumaboy/2176376988/in/pool-611887@N24
Berkeley Square:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/drumaboy/3323029480/in/pool-611887@N24
Gordon Square:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fictiondreamer/2284216787/in/pool-611887@N24
Grosvenor Square:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/drumaboy/3016674230/in/pool-611887@N24
Golden Square:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/michael_and_sarah/162602820/in/pool-611887@N24
Soho Square:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jrth/5546912/in/pool-611887@N24

I've been to the place in the height of summer, and apart from the leaves in the tress and greener vegetation, the place looks exactly the same; that is, no attention to detailing, dirt tracks all over, dray patches of grass, old deteriorated street furniture (benches), dead trees, and in general, a look that is far from a manicured look that other parks have.

I can see where your coming from but let me make one point:

I think your forgetting that the idea behind Queen's Park (at least what it's become today) is that it embodies a natural "forest" setting or something along those lines. The pictures you presented are completely different, clearly there's nothing natural about it - not that it's bad, it's just different. We have a few smaller parks that are closer along the lines of what you are looking for.

But Queen's park wasn't ever meant to be what your looking for - moreover, the density of trees is so much higher then Bedford Square - creating that more natural setting.

Personally I love it the way it is now and wouldn't want it to change to resemble those pictures in the slightest.
BUT - in front of the parliament building it self I wouldn't mind if it was better landscaped to create something similar to Bedford Square. It's deffinetly closer to that then Queen's Park is today but its lacking.
 
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I can see where your coming from but let me make one point:

I think your forgetting that the idea behind Queen's Park (at least what it's become today) is that it embodies a natural "forest" setting or something along those lines. The pictures you presented are completely different, clearly there's nothing natural about it - not that it's bad, it's just different. We have a few smaller parks that are closer along the lines of what you are looking for.

But Queen's park wasn't ever meant to be what your looking for - moreover, the density of trees is so much higher then Bedford Square - creating that more natural setting.

Personally I love it the way it is now and wouldn't want it to change to resemble those pictures in the slightest.
BUT - in front of the parliament building it self I wouldn't mind if it was better landscaped to create something similar to Bedford Square. It's deffinetly closer to that then Queen's Park is today but its lacking.

Maybe you are right, and we are talking about two different "animals". I just love beautiful urban parks like Les Tuileries in Paris:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/betsyinoz/1798268190/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aberiault/2829600954/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lamagamorgana/834286599/
I still think that because of it's size, location, etc. Queen's Park would not be considered in the "urban forest" category like Hyde Park, Central Park or our own High Park, but in the "urban park" category-look at the second picture of Les Tuileries, the set up has some similarities (while being also aware of the huge differences) with the north end of Queen's Park where it turns into Avenue Rd. Although the main problem with Queen's Park is that is an island surrounded by high speed traffic, and casual pedestrian access to it is really compromised.
 
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Strangly, I've always hated Les Tuileries. The French have this belief that a park is not a park until they deposit square miles of bright crushed stone through most of it. I've been in the Tiles on a hot day and found it dusty, the reflection from the light stones has hurt my eyes, and it's hot like crazy. Ugh.

Give me any park in London over any park in Paris any day. Or the Boston Common. Lovely.

That being said, yes, I would like to see Queen's Park cleaned up and better maintained. I would also like to see one less lane of traffic around it, as it feels isolated from the city and too noisy.
 

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