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ErieHall said:
Would they even want to start construction before flooding protection is done? I'd imagine the insurers might have something to say about that.
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Often seen water-filled foundations at construction sites. They just pump it out afterwards. It's after occupancy, that flooding would be a big problem.
 
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I can't wait to see how this all turns out. So far the plans look great, but I can't say I'm confident in the architecture we'll get considering what's gone up on the waterfront so far.
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
Bridge Schematic Design presentation from the May WT DRP:

https://waterfrontoronto.ca/nbe/wcm/connect/waterfront/322cdafb-60f0-4b68-8606-a88846de85c1/Design+Review+Panel+Meeting+Presentation+-+Port+Lands+Flood+Protection+Bridges+-+Schematic+Design+(DRAFT)+-+July+25,+2018.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

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Very interesting design. It's a step in the right direction from the original design, but I would like to see some more industrial visual cues. Weathered steel and rivets.

It's also interesting that the Broadview streetcar ROW is on the west side. IIRC, the East Harbour GO station design still had the streetcar in the middle of the road. So it makes me wonder where they intend the transition to happen.
EDIT: got the Commissioner's bridge mixed up with the Broadview bridge, nvm. @interchange42
 
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Sorry, confused by your comment re Broadview. Where is that in this document?

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syn said:
I can't wait to see how this all turns out. So far the plans look great, but I can't say I'm confident in the architecture we'll get considering what's gone up on the waterfront so far.
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I just got back from a two-week vacation in Scandinavia. Seeing the architectural quality in Copenhagen and Oslo's newer waterfront neighbourhoods, and comparing it to what we've gotten in Toronto thus far, I just wanted to cry.
 
FNTS said:
I just got back from a two-week vacation in Scandinavia. Seeing the architectural quality in Copenhagen and Oslo's newer waterfront neighbourhoods, and comparing it to what we've gotten in Toronto thus far, I just wanted to cry.
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Having visited Copenhagen, I was impressed by the architecture of its new neighbourhoods but disappointed in their planning. Ørestad was full of gorgeous buildings surrounded by mostly nothing. It all felt very isolated and suburban despite the metro line nearby. There was no human scale! The West Don Lands, by comparison, feel like a part of the city even with many of the lots still vacant. The architecture is much less exciting here, but I think I'd rather live in a vaguely boring building with a nice lively streetscape than a stunning building surrounded by surface parking.

All that being said, I'd be thrilled if WT set BIG, 3XN, and Henning Larsen loose on the Lower Don Lands.
 
FNTS said:
I just got back from a two-week vacation in Scandinavia. Seeing the architectural quality in Copenhagen and Oslo's newer waterfront neighbourhoods, and comparing it to what we've gotten in Toronto thus far, I just wanted to cry.
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Yep, I just had a look at new some developments in Oslo via Google maps. It's just objectively better. Not surprised. If some Americans wish they were Canadians, some Canadians wish they were Scandinavians.
 
DonValleyRainbow said:
Very interesting design. It's a step in the right direction from the original design, but I would like to see some more industrial visual cues. Weathered steel and rivets.

It's also interesting that the Broadview streetcar ROW is on the west side. IIRC, the East Harbour GO station design still had the streetcar in the middle of the road. So it makes me wonder where they intend the transition to happen.
EDIT: got the Commissioner's bridge mixed up with the Broadview bridge, nvm. @interchange42
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I think I know what you're getting at and would agree. Not that I'm saying what's proposed isn't great. It's futuristic and graceful, and the colour post-DRP is more than welcome. But something about older industrial I feel could make a presence. Rusty rivets and cage-like iron does have beauty, as can be gleaned from say the Cherry Bascule or Queen East bridge over the Don. Tho other than my armchair musing have no idea how such could be incorporated into something that's also to have futuristic qualities.

As an aside and o/t-ish, I would be open to a complete rethink of the LRT and how it's to come into Villiers. I think an overlooked option would be 2-car LRVs, elevated all the way from Freeland. High capacity, high speeds, with the added bonus of more pronounced bridges at Cherry North and Commissioners.
 
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smably said:
Having visited Copenhagen, I was impressed by the architecture of its new neighbourhoods but disappointed in their planning. Ørestad was full of gorgeous buildings surrounded by mostly nothing. It all felt very isolated and suburban despite the metro line nearby. There was no human scale! The West Don Lands, by comparison, feel like a part of the city even with many of the lots still vacant. The architecture is much less exciting here, but I think I'd rather live in a vaguely boring building with a nice lively streetscape than a stunning building surrounded by surface parking.

All that being said, I'd be thrilled if WT set BIG, 3XN, and Henning Larsen loose on the Lower Don Lands.
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We are getting some of these Architects projects within the city. BIG on King St W for example and possibly more by the others.
 
tstormers said:
We are getting some of these Architects projects within the city. BIG on King St W for example and possibly more by the others.
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Well 3XN is already doing two of the Aquas at EBF; Foster is signed up for 3C next door. We do need something a little iconic to anchor the area though.

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