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Courthouse Square also has 7 or 8 "street planters' on Court Street to match those IN the park. They used to have clematis but, of course, nobody maintained them. PFR said they were 'street plants', Transportation said they were Park plants!

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And both PFR and Transportation are vegetables.

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AlvinofDiaspar said:
And both PFR and Transportation are vegetables.

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Not all of them, that's excessive.

But yes, too many.

In the former case, also injured by under-funding.

In both cases affected by way too many silos and forms.
 
June 7
Toronto Hydro has turn the power on for the park today that it will allow the testing and commission of the park before June 23rd opening. Some testing of the lights will happen tonight once the sun sets along with any adjustment.

Some trees may have to be replaced that were planted last year.

Filling of the pond could happen this weekend based on testing, but will be full next week.

The first batch of chairs and table on site with the rest arriving next week.

The city will mounter the area to discourage any encampment of homeless setup.

The beaver will be place on a rock in the pond at water level.

The fencing for the dog park is now offsite been fix and is to be in place next week.

The vines for the Trellis is already a foot high and to be 10 feet by year end. Will be a few years until the vines cover the Trellis.

Temporary fencing has been place around the various plants for the next few years to allow them to grow as well stop people walking over them.

The City has been given a batch of tiles to replace any that may get damage overtime as well need replacing for various reasons.

String quartet will provided the music for opening day and the special events.

Major clean up underway with all the sidewalks to have a power wash before opening day.

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We're wasting our money building beautiful green areas if we're only going to protect them for a few months. As soon as those temporary fences are removed, dog owners will be diligently getting those plants soaked in urine and sh*t. We should be bordering most of our grass/planted areas with permanent fences. Countless cities around the world do this and they don't need to be high to be effective. A fence and ledge together is even better as dogs are more likely to go on the ledge instead of the plants/greenery.

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isaidso said:
We're wasting our money building beautiful green areas if we're only going to protect them for a few months. As soon as those temporary fences are removed, dog owners will be diligently getting those plants soaked in urine and sh*t. We should be bordering most of our grass/planted areas with permanent fences. Countless cities around the world do this and they don't need to be high to be effective. A fence and ledge together is even better as dogs are more likely to go on the ledge instead of the plants/greenery.
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While I agree that ornamental fences/borders would be a good idea in many places in City parks, they are not universally necessary from a design perspective.

Industry professionals and Cormier is certainly one, and one of the best, know this.

You take each design element on its own and consider whether people are likely to beat a desire line, cut a corner, or yes whether dogs may be an issue.

You address these things in a host of ways:

1) Putting in hard pathways where necessary/desired
2) Putting in a dog relief area and/or DOLA
3) Irrigation/drainage
4) Plant selection and placement
5) Topographical adjustment (making the ground go up into a hill or down into a swale to discourage or encourage use)
6) Fences (full or ornamental)
7) Seat walls/benches

You can see evidence from @drum118 's post above about the thought that's gone into things here. How the furniture is being managed, how skateboarding is being discouraged, how certain things are fixed in place and spare materials have been provided. Let's give Cormier's design a chance before assuming he's made some terrible mistake.

So far, I've only seen one mistake of this type from him, and that's in Berczy, where the grass around the sculpture has been pulverized. That needed hardscape around it; or people needed to be cut off from it.

But he's usually really good about that sort of thing. He knows what ornamental fences are, and he uses them as appropriate in his projects.

FWIW, to the extent I have any concerns here over that sort of thing, I'm probably more concerned about the grass than the planting beds; but I'll wait to see how people behave in the space before judging.
 
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Northern Light said:
While I agree that ornamental fences/borders would be a good idea in many places in City parks, they are not universally necessary from a design perspective.

Industry professionals and Cormier is certainly one, and one of the best, know this.

You take each design element on its own and consider whether people are likely to beat a desire line, cut a corner, or yes whether dogs may be an issue.

You address these things in a host of ways:

1) Putting in hard pathways where necessary/desired
2) Putting in a dog relief area and/or DOLA
3) Irrigation/drainage
4) Plant selection and placement
5) Topographical adjustment (making the ground go up into a hill or down into a swale to discourage or encourage use)
6) Fences (full or ornamental)
7) Seat walls/benches

You can see evidence from @drum118 's post above about the thought that's gone into things here. How the furniture is being managed, how skateboarding is being discouraged, how certain things are fixed in place and spare materials have been provided. Let's give Cormier's design a chance before assuming he's made some terrible mistake.

So far, I've only seen one mistake of this type from him, and that's in Berczy, where the grass around the sculpture has been pulverized. That needed hardscape around it; or people needed to be cut off from it.

But he's usually really good about that sort of thing. He knows what ornamental fences are, and he uses them as appropriate in his projects.

FWIW, to the extent I have any concerns here over that sort of thing, I'm probably more concerned about the grass than the planting beds; but I'll wait to see how people behave in the space before judging.
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You have to look at the City for cutting funding or saying there is no money for x in the plan that could be improved on for a few things for the park.

Been involved not only with this park from day one as well a number of other ones on the Waterfront, the city is their own worse enemy for not doing things right from day one, starting with the bidding process. The bidders can come up with some great plans, but when it comes to cost to do it, it becomes cut cut to we may do this at a later date if funds can be found for it.

One of the main goal was not having skateboarders damaging the tiles and the area. The other goal was to stop people playing in the pond that rocks are setup that help to prevent people walking in it with bare feet or with shoes that will twist ankles. There will be people sitting on the edge with their feet in the water which is fine. There will be signs showing not to walk in the pond.

As for dogs, we have tons of owners who refused to clean up the mess that their animal has made and they can cause all kinds of damages to a park, while others take care to make sure their animal doesn't cause issues for everyone.

New parks take a number of years of protection to allow things to grow and matured as well replacing things that fail to grow in the first place.

The BIA has made an invested in this park by buying the removable furniture and have the ability to to replace items that may get damage or stolen. All items are tag with Love Park and if it shows up somewhere else, questions will arise why is it here and not at the Love Park.
 
Park isn’t open yet - it simply may not be installed yet. It’s the kind of thing they will likely string up in a day if it is still happening, and due to it being an equipment hazard would likely be one of the last things to be installed.
 
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