afransen
Senior Member
Subways have hardly been going better.
sixrings
Senior Member
I’m not encouraging Erin mills development.
If 10 extra floors isn’t a big deal then port credit shouldn’t have a problem building it.
30 floors sounds dense if it was anywhere else. It’s not dense when it’s directly beside an all day GO station. For instance hurontario and Eglinton is getting countless 30 floor developments and they don’t have all day GO trains. They don’t have part day GO trains. They don’t even have a GO bus station. So 30 floors there is alot of development. Context matters.
Btw I was being generous with the a higher average amount at point credit. And a lower anverage amount at cooksville. Drum has the more details without having to individually open every single Mississauga page application and putting it together.
The good news is that all those people at Cooksville will have great access to the LRT so that they can use it to get to a GO station that actually works.
Finally yes it’s 10 floors in comparison to the other GO train station but it’s 40 floor difference when comparing it to the bus station. That’s a huge difference and a huge problem. Also the place with 70 floor proposals sees zero protests while port credit has every single application protested and almost every single one get cut down.
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sixrings
Senior Member
This is true. But part of the LRT promise was this could get up and running pretty quick. Instead because of deferred spending. And changed plans. And construction nightmares things have taken much longer than originally proposed. As a result I can understand someone saying to themselves, or a politician using it as a wedge issue, if this isn’t going to get up and running quick what does it matter let’s build the subway.
T3G
Senior Member
Is this satire?
sixrings
Senior Member
doady
Senior Member
I am not going to nitpick about the heights of 30+ storey buildings in Port Credit, Cooksville, and Hurontario/Eglinton and use that as evidence that the city is limiting high density developments outside of MCC. I am much more concerned about 22 storey proposals being reduced to 15 storeys.
And my concern is not because of the GO station. Most people in Mississauga, including Port Credit, are using local transit. Even people in Brampton are mostly travelling to Mississauga instead of Downtown Toronto. The real problem with 15 storeys in Port Credit is what that means for future light rail along Lakeshore Road East.
And no, T3G this isn't satire. Port Credit is literally a streetcar suburb. It has already been served by streetcars. Bringing back rail service along Lakeshore Road would be nothing new. The city has already designated it as a future Higher Order Transit Corridor alongside Hurontario Street and Dundas Street.
drum118
Superstar
October 19
More up on my site
Took a walk up tp Kingsbridge as I had no service and nothing to do until 6pm to have a look at the corridor. Nothing new until the wye area. The base of the wye are for the retraining wall poured with the top still to be pour. A n opening is in the Hurontario side retraining wall to allow equipmet and concrete truch to gain access to the wye area, Saw no concrete for the guideway base for the wye area that I could see.
Formwork in place for the top of the ramp retraining was and could not see if concrete has been poured for it.
Not sure where the ramp will connect to Hurontario by how the area is dug up. Could be south of the traffic light pole, the Traffic pole or north of it based on the digging and the placing of the EPS Geofoam Blocks. There more of the existing and new EPS Geofoam Blocks noth of the 403 westbound off ramp.
Looking at the EPS Geofoam Blocks got me thinking if they were place in the ramp area as well the Rathburn ramp since I saw neither of them been backfill.
New curb has been porred for the westbound on ramp for the 403 with a ramp for pedestrians the ramp at the south end now all the hydro underground work is done from Hillcrest to the ramp area as well to the substation.
Was planning on looking at a few other things but lookes like rain was coming and came as I hit Sq One.
More up on my site
Took a walk up tp Kingsbridge as I had no service and nothing to do until 6pm to have a look at the corridor. Nothing new until the wye area. The base of the wye are for the retraining wall poured with the top still to be pour. A n opening is in the Hurontario side retraining wall to allow equipmet and concrete truch to gain access to the wye area, Saw no concrete for the guideway base for the wye area that I could see.
Formwork in place for the top of the ramp retraining was and could not see if concrete has been poured for it.
Not sure where the ramp will connect to Hurontario by how the area is dug up. Could be south of the traffic light pole, the Traffic pole or north of it based on the digging and the placing of the EPS Geofoam Blocks. There more of the existing and new EPS Geofoam Blocks noth of the 403 westbound off ramp.
Looking at the EPS Geofoam Blocks got me thinking if they were place in the ramp area as well the Rathburn ramp since I saw neither of them been backfill.
New curb has been porred for the westbound on ramp for the 403 with a ramp for pedestrians the ramp at the south end now all the hydro underground work is done from Hillcrest to the ramp area as well to the substation.
Was planning on looking at a few other things but lookes like rain was coming and came as I hit Sq One.
T3G
Senior Member
It's already a really slow route, and on account of its length is also insanely mismanaged. Big gaps in the middle of the day for no reason are not remotely uncommon. Extending it to Port Credit would not materially improve anyone's situation in any way - those heading downtown would be much smarter to use the LSW line, and those travelling locally will find the MiWay 23 to be far more reliable.
nfitz
Superstar
Amare
Senior Member
I dont want to jinx it, but the 507 has been one of the most reliable and consistent streetcar routes ever since it's been split off and had it's own designated route numbering assigned.
Nevertheless, there wont be any streetcar line down Lakeshore Rd in Mississauga at any point in the near or long-term future. It's not needed, nor does it make any sense.
I dont see what this has to do with the Hurontario line in any case.
sixrings
Senior Member
It has to do with keeping port credit a village by creating a quant streetcar and stopping mass development.
T3G
Senior Member
The poster referring to extending the 501, not the 507. Presumably, therefore, the 501 would take over the 507 routing in this fantasy scenario.
The 507 is relatively good as far as streetcar lines go, but how exactly would extending it to Port Credit achieve the results that the poster was aiming for? You still need to transfer to get anywhere useful.
sixrings
Senior Member
Northern Light
Superstar
October 19
More up on my site
Took a walk up tp Kingsbridge as I had no service and nothing to do until 6pm to have a look at the corridor. Nothing new until the wye area. The base of the wye are for the retraining wall poured with the top still to be pour. A n opening is in the Hurontario side retraining wall to allow equipmet and concrete truch to gain access to the wye area, Saw no concrete for the guideway base for the wye area that I could see.
Formwork in place for the top of the ramp retraining was and could not see if concrete has been poured for it.
Not sure where the ramp will connect to Hurontario by how the area is dug up. Could be south of the traffic light pole, the Traffic pole or north of it based on the digging and the placing of the EPS Geofoam Blocks. There more of the existing and new EPS Geofoam Blocks noth of the 403 westbound off ramp.
Looking at the EPS Geofoam Blocks got me thinking if they were place in the ramp area as well the Rathburn ramp since I saw neither of them been backfill.
New curb has been porred for the westbound on ramp for the 403 with a ramp for pedestrians the ramp at the south end now all the hydro underground work is done from Hillcrest to the ramp area as well to the substation.
Was planning on looking at a few other things but lookes like rain was coming and came as I hit Sq One.
Drum, do you have a good sense of where the project stands timeline wise; ie a date it may be ready for testing? (obviously it would very approximate at this point, but it certainly does not look at all close in your photos.
drum118
Superstar
The earlest I could see an LRT on the Lakeshore from Long Branch to Brightwater is 2050 and beyond. The first phase of the BRT is only a shotr section and go west to Clarkson that has mojor issues like the LRT. Both have to be underground through Port Credit as well getting under the Credit River. i forgot the timeframe for the construction of the short BRT section and most liely around 2030.
I cannot see an LRT going west of Brightwater as it is poorly low density area with the 23 pickng up few riders west of Clarkson as well in it.
As to why the 501/507 is being talked about regrading Hurontario LRT is the the fact that the city wants to reduce the need to transfer from one system to another. The one issue doing this that either Mississauga or TTC will have to change car design. It will have to be either single end or duel end.
The big issue I have rasied for an LRT on the Lakeshore, will the Hurontaro line be part of this LRT line?? The Hurontario was supposed to go south to Port St and then to Brightwater but the nimby kill it. If huromtario LRTis to be part of the Lakeshore LIne, it only can go to Long Branch if there is a wye connection at Hurntario/Lakeshore how do you splite the service as well where are you going to place stations to service that intersection as well splite service.
The best that will happen for the Lakeshore is an BRT with most of the density east of Hurontario.
As for Testing the Hurontario line, it was supposed to start Feb 2024, then August 2025 but it will happen by summer of 2025 from Topflight to Eglinton that will be the burn-in and training driver test area. As for the whole line late 2026 to 2027 or 2028 depending on the loop.
One thing could happen first is service starting in Brampton to Sq One Station as phase 1 in late 2026.
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