Toronto Gibson Square Condominiums | 137.46m | 42s | Menkes | Rafael + Bigauskas
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innsertnamehere
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Anyone know if it will eventually connect through to Beacon Condos?
sunnyraytoronto
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Yes,.... I already covered this last year,.....
http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/thread...-wallman-architects.13050/page-7#post-1033097
This underground pedestrian tunnel connects NorthYorkCityCentre (which has direct subway connection) to Menkes GibsonSquare P1 Parking level,.... at the north end of which, will have another underground pedestrian connection to Sobara's Beacon P1 Parking level,.... at the north end of which, will have another underground pedestrian connection to G-Group's Centrium2/EllieCondo P2 parking level,...
So technically, you could probably make like a rat and go completely underground from G-Group's Centrium2/EllieCondo all the way down to SheppardCentre (notice I didn't say HullmarkCentre or Proctor&GambleBuilding or EmeraldPark since getting to any of these destination from SheppardCentre requires TTC station access),.... there are a few places like Ultima-condo where you'll technically need a pass to get into their residential parking level (or you just follow someone in),....
Transportfan
Senior Member
I don't see why station access wouldn't be possible.
And if they built underground tunnels all way to Finch, that would make a system as long as the main north-south corridor of the PATH downtown.
sunnyraytoronto
Senior Member
At Yonge and Sheppard, RioCan SheppardCentre, Tridel HullmarkCentre, Menkes Proctor&GambleBuilding and Bazis EmeraldPark all have direct subway access already. But in order to get from RioCan SheppardCentre to any of the other developments south of Sheppard like HullmarkCentre, Proctor&GambleBuilding & EmeraldPark,.... you need to go through TTC Sheppard-Yonge subway station,... so unless you have a metropass - not worth it.
NorthYork CityPlanning doesn't encourage an underground PATH system in North York anymore,.... then again, they're not really discouraging it either,... thus, we have system like Menkes GibsonSquare, Sorbara Beacon and G-Group Centrium2-EllieCondo building their own network,.... mainly to service their own residents,.... thus, parts of it will be private like at Ultima-Condo where you need security pass to access the P1 parking level.
Transportfan
Senior Member
But if there are projects that already have subway access, then why could Hullmark not have it, making a direct link?
amnesiajune
Senior Member
What he/she means is that you have to pay the TTC fare to get across Sheppard undergound, since you'd have to go through the subway station.
sunnyraytoronto
Senior Member
Exactly,.... now keep in mind many moons ago, there was a time when 45 & 47 Sheppard Ave East (the provincial court and ServiceOntario building south of Sheppard) had a direct subway access connection to Sheppard-Yonge main station (north of Shepppard),.... but the underground pedestrian tunnel was demolished when they build the Sheppard STUBway,.... hence this Sheppard STUBway line makes it more difficult to put in underground pedestrian tunnels across Sheppard Ave,.... since Sheppard Stubway line is just below road surface at Sheppard & Yonge,.... an underground pedestrian tunnel would likely have to be on P3 underground parking level,.... and as for getting permission from city and TTC, good luck with that!
Transportfan
Senior Member
So Hullmark isn't connectable outside the fare-paid area?
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sunnyraytoronto
Senior Member
Bingo,....
Besides St.Andrews Station, Downtown PATH also goes through Union Station, Queen Station (via what was suposed to be streetcar tunnel area) and Dundas Station,... but they all go through the non-paying area at collector booth level. The underground link from SheppardCentre through TTC Sheppard-Yonge Subway station to Tridel HullmarkCentre, Bazis EmeraldPark and Menkes Proctor&Gamble building requires a walk along the TTC fare required Yonge subway platform at Sheppard-Yonge subway station,.... so unless you can figure out a way to segregate paying and non-paying users on a subway platform,....
Besides St.Andrews Station, Downtown PATH also goes through Union Station, Queen Station (via what was suposed to be streetcar tunnel area) and Dundas Station,... but they all go through the non-paying area at collector booth level. The underground link from SheppardCentre through TTC Sheppard-Yonge Subway station to Tridel HullmarkCentre, Bazis EmeraldPark and Menkes Proctor&Gamble building requires a walk along the TTC fare required Yonge subway platform at Sheppard-Yonge subway station,.... so unless you can figure out a way to segregate paying and non-paying users on a subway platform,....
innsertnamehere
Superstar
The queen station underpass under the tracks has been there from the opening of the subway. Where the streetcar track was supposed to be is through the set of double metal doors in the corridor.. if you opened those you could get into the shell of the streetcar platform down there.
sunnyraytoronto
Senior Member
If the DRL definitely won't go through Queen, then they should convert that streetcar platform area into an underground farm-garden specializing in herbs and vegetables,....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ear...round-farm-opens-in-WW2-air-raid-shelter.html
The Relief Line looks like it is going through Queen, but deep than where the tunnel is now. That space will likely end up being remodelled as a mezzanine between the north-south and east-west lines.
BTW, @innsertnamehere is correct: the connections under the Yonge line Queen station use the area that would have been platforms, not the areas where the tracks were to be. If you're interested, I have photos of that area in my Flickr TTC albums. Start with this image, and then click on the right arrow to see more.
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BTW, @innsertnamehere is correct: the connections under the Yonge line Queen station use the area that would have been platforms, not the areas where the tracks were to be. If you're interested, I have photos of that area in my Flickr TTC albums. Start with this image, and then click on the right arrow to see more.
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sunnyraytoronto
Senior Member
From a week ago,... finished cement structure of underground pedestrian tunnel,.... looks like they just need to repave part of the road,.... then focus on internal of pedestrian tunnel - flooring, tiles, electrical, etc,.... construction started this past Spring but will likely be opened before Bazis EmeraldPark TTC pedestrian tunnel which started in June 2014! Last 2 images show Menkes GibsonSquare P1 level southeast corner where wall will likely be knocked down for pedestrian tunnel connection
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sunnyraytoronto
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BostonPizza looks ready to open very soon - large screen TV on, all tables are set,... notice GibsonSquare security going over to tell construction workers to remove their vehicles off pedestrian sidewalk
In the photo above,.... Notice the cluster of orange pylons on the pedestrian sidewalk,.... that's the location of tripping hazards,.... A side-effect of BostonPizza construction seems to have been warped metal plates tripping hazard on pedestrian sidewalk caused by heavy truck picking up their construction garbage bin.
https://www.thestar.com/yourtoronto...zard-on-busy-yonge-st-sidewalk-the-fixer.html
Warped metal plates a hazard on busy Yonge St. sidewalk: The Fixer
The plates are supposed to be flush with the sidewalk but are oval-shaped, likely from heavy trucks passing over them.
Large metal plates covering a utility well in the sidewalk on the west side of Yonge St., north of Park Home Ave., are badly warped, making them a serious tripping hazard. (JACK LAKEY / TORONTO STAR) | JACK LAKEYThe Fixer
Fri., Jan. 6, 2017
It takes a lot of weight to bend sturdy metal plates until they are so warped that they take on a new shape.
And when they’re on a sidewalk on one of the busiest streets in the city, the shape-shifting plates are transformed into a hazard, when they’re meant to be a safety measure for pedestrians.
We were trudging along the west side of Yonge St., between Park Home and Ellerslie Aves., during the daylong downpour on Tuesday when we came across a utility maintenance well in the sidewalk.
It would have escaped our notice if we hadn’t snagged a toe on a raised edge at one end of the plates covering the well, propelling us into a semi-stumble. We were in no danger of falling, but it sure did get our attention.
Two large plates are inlaid in the sidewalk, bookended by slats that allow air into the cavity below, which looks like it has something to do with a new condo tower next to it.
The plates covering the well are supposed to be flush with the surrounding sidewalk, to ensure that pedestrians can walk across them without tripping.
But for some reason, these plates are warped so that they dip down in the middle, creating a raised edge at the point where they meet the air slats.
Hmmm. What could have bent the plates, constructed of sturdy metal, in such a way that they have taken on a concave shape?
It looked to us as though they’ve been rolled, likely by the wheels of heavy trucks passing over them, on their way to and from the condo building while it was still under construction.
Another tipoff was a big dumpster box next to the north wall of the condo; you could draw a straight line from the plates to it.
A Google Street View image from last June shows that the plates were also warped then, but not as badly as they are now. Clearly, their oval shape has been a while in the making, and we’re quite likely not alone in tripping over them.
STATUS: Rick Helary, who’s in charge of road operations in that area, emailed to say large traffic barrels and caution tape will be put up around the utility well until the city can identify who’s responsible for the plates, and have them replaced.
What's broken in your neighbourhood? Wherever you are in Greater Toronto, we want to know. Send an email to jlakey@thestar.ca . Report problems and follow us on Twitter @TOStarFixer.
https://www.thestar.com/yourtoronto...zard-on-busy-yonge-st-sidewalk-the-fixer.html
In the photo above,.... Notice the cluster of orange pylons on the pedestrian sidewalk,.... that's the location of tripping hazards,.... A side-effect of BostonPizza construction seems to have been warped metal plates tripping hazard on pedestrian sidewalk caused by heavy truck picking up their construction garbage bin.
https://www.thestar.com/yourtoronto...zard-on-busy-yonge-st-sidewalk-the-fixer.html
Warped metal plates a hazard on busy Yonge St. sidewalk: The Fixer
The plates are supposed to be flush with the sidewalk but are oval-shaped, likely from heavy trucks passing over them.
Large metal plates covering a utility well in the sidewalk on the west side of Yonge St., north of Park Home Ave., are badly warped, making them a serious tripping hazard. (JACK LAKEY / TORONTO STAR) | JACK LAKEYThe Fixer
Fri., Jan. 6, 2017
It takes a lot of weight to bend sturdy metal plates until they are so warped that they take on a new shape.
And when they’re on a sidewalk on one of the busiest streets in the city, the shape-shifting plates are transformed into a hazard, when they’re meant to be a safety measure for pedestrians.
We were trudging along the west side of Yonge St., between Park Home and Ellerslie Aves., during the daylong downpour on Tuesday when we came across a utility maintenance well in the sidewalk.
It would have escaped our notice if we hadn’t snagged a toe on a raised edge at one end of the plates covering the well, propelling us into a semi-stumble. We were in no danger of falling, but it sure did get our attention.
Two large plates are inlaid in the sidewalk, bookended by slats that allow air into the cavity below, which looks like it has something to do with a new condo tower next to it.
The plates covering the well are supposed to be flush with the surrounding sidewalk, to ensure that pedestrians can walk across them without tripping.
But for some reason, these plates are warped so that they dip down in the middle, creating a raised edge at the point where they meet the air slats.
Hmmm. What could have bent the plates, constructed of sturdy metal, in such a way that they have taken on a concave shape?
It looked to us as though they’ve been rolled, likely by the wheels of heavy trucks passing over them, on their way to and from the condo building while it was still under construction.
Another tipoff was a big dumpster box next to the north wall of the condo; you could draw a straight line from the plates to it.
A Google Street View image from last June shows that the plates were also warped then, but not as badly as they are now. Clearly, their oval shape has been a while in the making, and we’re quite likely not alone in tripping over them.
STATUS: Rick Helary, who’s in charge of road operations in that area, emailed to say large traffic barrels and caution tape will be put up around the utility well until the city can identify who’s responsible for the plates, and have them replaced.
What's broken in your neighbourhood? Wherever you are in Greater Toronto, we want to know. Send an email to jlakey@thestar.ca . Report problems and follow us on Twitter @TOStarFixer.
https://www.thestar.com/yourtoronto...zard-on-busy-yonge-st-sidewalk-the-fixer.html
