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[AlvinofDiaspar]

Removing that central plaza is very short sighted and a lost opportunity. In turn if executed properly it could become just as big as Dundas square in terms of impact and draw (not so much the whole advertising and Times Square light).

I think they're trying to rush the Amazon HQ2 proposal - but not going to excuse this change here.

AoD

 

[ADRM]

I dunno, I never really liked its placement -- it was to be surrounded by roads, including one that stands to be quite busy (and remember that FG is fighting the City on making Broadview a complete street), and they've not done away with public space entirely; they've just reorganized things in the site plan. This image, for example, is from the new scheme:

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Speaking of which, update from the Nov PGMC:

http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/viewAgendaItemHistory.do?item=2017.PG24.1

Among other things, this part is interesting:

AoD

 

[DonValleyRainbow]

So, this happened
https://twitter.com/graphicmatt/status/928275962617257984

Looks like they cut most of the park in the middle and opted to just leave the railway?

Removing that central plaza is very short sighted and a lost opportunity. In turn if executed properly it could become just as big as Dundas square in terms of impact and draw (not so much the whole advertising and Times Square light).

Speaking of which, update from the Nov PGMC:

http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/viewAgendaItemHistory.do?item=2017.PG24.1

Among other things, this part is interesting:

View attachment 126512

AoD

Wow, wtf. Completely missed the removal of the central plaza. I agree it is short-sighted.

But it coincided with Enbridge's facility being removed from the OPA / study area, and it was envisioned to be green space anyway. So aren't the changes a huge gouging of large, contiguous public space with both changes taken together? And if they are going to be re-routing pipes to a new station, doesn't that free up 405 again? Why is it being removed?

The whole situation is very confusing and frustrating.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Wow, wtf. Completely missed the removal of the central plaza. I agree it is short-sighted.

But it coincided with Enbridge's facility being removed from the OPA / study area, and it was envisioned to be green space anyway. So aren't the changes a huge gouging of large, contiguous public space with both changes taken together? And if they are going to be re-routing pipes to a new station, doesn't that free up 405 again? Why is it being removed?

The whole situation is very confusing and frustrating.

The OMA East Harbour Master Plan included lands First Gulf didn't own to start off with. Removal of the central plaza is one thing, how the remainder of the green space got scattered as an afterthought is a total bummer - I am not sure how dumping it to the SE corner adds anything other than buffer space for transitioning down the built form. Also the updated proposal basically ate into space available for the intermodal station.

In any case, I am sure we haven't heard the last of these plans.

AoD

 

[Roundabout]

A video on the Unilever Precinct Planning Study and First Gulf's East Harbour proposal:

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

FYI there is a joint WT-City DRP meeting today:

12:00 pm
Unilever Precinct Plan and East Harbour Proposal – Joint WT Panel (1st Review)
(1, 5, 9 & 21 Don Valley Pkwy; 6, 30 & 50 Booth Ave; 0, 385, 405, 415, 433 & 447 Eastern Ave)
Application: Rezoning, Subdivision and OPA
Developer: First Gulf
Presentations:
-Carly Bowman, Community Planning; Ran Chen, Urban Design
-Adamson Associates Architects, Urban Strategies

https://www.toronto.ca/wp-content/u...sign-DesignReviewPanel-Agenda-24Nov2017v2.pdf

Run run run! You have an hour.

AoD

 

[DonValleyRainbow]

Notice regarding Enbridge's gas line relocation:

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Notice regarding Enbridge's gas line relocation:

They will have to go deep with that option given Don River and the West Don Land FPL?

AoD

 

[DonValleyRainbow]

They will have to go deep with that option given Don River and the West Don Land FPL?

AoD

Well that, and to not mess with Corktown Common; can you imagine the backlash? Thinking they'd use a small TBM to do this?

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

East Harbour Public Realm Development Strategy (dated Nov 10) now available from the Dev App Site:

http://app.toronto.ca/DevelopmentAp...3841399&isCofASearch=false&isTlabSearch=false

Meh. Not very inspiring for the ask they are going for. The perimeter parkland other than the unavoidable Don River facing side is weak and creates a notion of a "compound" development.

AoD

 

[ADRM]

And from the 200+ page transportation masterplan resubmission doc, a summary of where we've been and where we are now on usage:

 

[Kitsune]

That gas line will have to be moved just for the relief line no ?

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

And from the 200+ page transportation masterplan resubmission doc, a summary of where we've been and where we are now on usage:

View attachment 128508

Any indication as of yet on what kind of institutional use?

 

[ChesterCopperpot]

These look new from - http://eastharbour.ca/