Toronto Daniels Waterfront - City of the Arts | 156.05m | 45s | Daniels | RAW Design

Also appreciate the optimism they had when they decided to stick a streetcar in the render.

Also also, the wide open spaces on the south side of Queen's Quay. If you tried to take a shot from that vantage in real life you'd be dangling from the bow of a sugar freighter.
 
As per the editor's note on the main article, this is not the design. It's an early rendering someone leaked. If you check my post back awhile you'll get an accurate description of the project elements. Even the rendering they presented to the West Don Lands Committee / CodeBlueTO was preliminary (and it was newer than this one). UT should send someone to the monthly WDLC if they want another free source of accurate information on West Don Lands, East Bayfront and Portlands development. Smile.
 
As per the editor's note on the main article, this is not the design. It's an early rendering someone leaked. If you check my post back awhile you'll get an accurate description of the project elements. Even the rendering they presented to the West Don Lands Committee / CodeBlueTO was preliminary (and it was newer than this one). UT should send someone to the monthly WDLC if they want another free source of accurate information on West Don Lands, East Bayfront and Portlands development. Smile.

Not quite right. The images are not "an early rendering that someone leaked". These renderings come from the documents submitted by The Daniels Corporation to the City of Toronto in the Fall of 2014, and which the City recently posted on their Planning Department Development web pages. Otherwise, that's correct, the plans have morphed since the submission was made.

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Exactly! Was really happy Daniels piped up and mentioned that they haven't released renderings for marketing yet.
 
The comments are still useful, however, lest they are still considering any elements of this horrid design. Scrap and start again, which is what any self-respecting designer should do.
 
The comments are still useful, however, lest they are still considering any elements of this horrid design. Scrap and start again, which is what any self-respecting designer should do.

On the bright side, the design will have to be reviewed by the WT DRP.

AoD
 
Maybe we should all wait until a more finalized render/concept is released before making judgements and/or writing articles.

So, you're chiding UrbanToronto for publishing an article? We know that some feathers are ruffled when we publish information before developers are ready to get into the marketing phase for their projects, but…

When applications are made, they become part of a process which includes public participation. The City of Toronto is now publishing more of the application documents online, and we report on that once it comes to our attention. We do it for projects of many types and from any and all developers.

When the development is more straightforward we publish based on the information available in the documents without calling the developer first; the theory being, of course, that the documents tell the full story of the application. 95% of the time what is applied for is what gets presented at the first public consultation.

When the development is more complex we first talk to, or try to talk to the developers to get a better handle on what's going on. That's what we did here: we contacted Daniels, but we did not get a timely response to our questions. Unfortunately the response came later in the day, post publishing. Based on the response, we altered the article, which we are happy to do.

Everyone who is a part of the development process, or who is an observer of the process—and if you're a regular UT reader, than you are at least an observer if not also an actual participant—understands that it is a process, therefore things change. While the dream for marketers is that everything would only be known about at the fait accompli stage, UT is all about the involvement of the public in creating a better Toronto. We believe that a better informed public serves that goal.

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I understand it's a process; a very lengthy one.

Personally, I thought those illustrations look very preliminary and would've waited until something more concrete is announced. Then again, if we never write an article or report anything until it's close to final, these discussions would be pretty dull.
 
Maybe we should all wait until a more finalized render/concept is released before making judgements and/or writing articles.


It's a prime piece of real estate. I'm sure Daniels will treat is as such.

Outside of Festival Tower and One Park Place, there's little evidence Daniels have ever thought this way.
 
The project will be called The Lighthouse, launching this Fall. There's a couple renders floating around twitter (spoiler alert: looks like a TIFF Bell Lightbox).
 
https://twitter.com/LamisDantas/status/573579722652782594?lang=en

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