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innsertnamehere said:
Anyone who thought we were actually going to get those initial designs with the literally impossible engineering on some parts of it.. I’m sorry you are so gullible.
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Which engineering issues did you think were impossible? (No need to add the you are so gullible part. I really think that takes away from what many see as your excellent contributions to the forum. Everyone has their expertise in different areas. :)
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I’m thinking specifically of the overhanging sun reflecting thing that was in the first version, which to be fair I think they removed in the second version.

also, this latest version still looks very similar to the last one.. just a bit more fleshed out. The previous version was pretty unrefined.

I mean the west two towers look more or less unchanged and the east tower looks similar minus that new red lower portion, and the top extruding box being a bit more restrained.

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These are placement renderings, this will probably be sold off to different developer same as YSL was and designs will still change, the city approved the density and heights.
 
I agree. Is it also possible from those images that they are somewhat placeholders? I mean we don't have the site plan drawings yet do we? Also, could this not be flipped to a different developer, or would Kingsett build this as rentals on their own? I should have asked Jon Love in the seminar he threw the other day. Doubt he would have answered, but never hurts to try.
 
innsertnamehere said:
I’m thinking specifically of the overhanging sun reflecting thing that was in the first version, which to be fair I think they removed in the second version.

also, this latest version still looks very similar to the last one.. just a bit more fleshed out. The previous version was pretty unrefined.

I mean the west two towers look more or less unchanged and the east tower looks similar minus that new red lower portion, and the top extruding box being a bit more restrained.

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The architectural heliostat is possible engineering that has been used before, and in a much sunnier place (Sydney, Australia) that needs it less. I don't know why the attitude of accepting not having nice things as opposed to asking and expecting more.
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One Central Park - Heliostat and Reflector System - Good Design

The Architectural Heliostat & Lighting System was conceptualised by French Architect Jean Nouvel to address shading issues and improve natural lighting in high density urban areas. The system, designed by Kennovations for Sydney’s award-winning One Central Park development, is made up of 40...
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Pretty bland, and I feel that the square will be somewhat underutilized unfortunately (in all honestly, this is the quieter side of Yorkville)- I wonder if there was any merit in possibly shifting the square so that it fronted Yonge Street?

Yegger said:
The architectural heliostat is possible engineering that has been used before, and in a much sunnier place (Sydney, Australia) that needs it less. I don't know why the attitude of accepting not having nice things as opposed to asking and expecting more.

One Central Park - Heliostat and Reflector System - Good Design

The Architectural Heliostat & Lighting System was conceptualised by French Architect Jean Nouvel to address shading issues and improve natural lighting in high density urban areas. The system, designed by Kennovations for Sydney’s award-winning One Central Park development, is made up of 40...
good-design.org good-design.org
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TBH, Sydney has fairly mild weather- I wonder how something like that would fare in a freeze-thaw, snowy climate.
 
I said it before and say it again, kingsett doesnot have the ?? to build this. Even if they torontofied the towers further and made them look like cheap Concord ? they wont be able to build this on their own
 
Kingsett has bought up most of downtown Yonge in recent years. They most certainly have the bombs/baseballs to do this if they wanted. i agree with @insertnamehere the income stream makes me think they would build this where they would normally flip to a condo builder. I'm also curious, with Cresford out, who will become their go to developer for other land holdings?

At least a good chunk of this is rental iirc.
 
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