hw621
Senior Member
Imagine the outcry of the Auto Kings...
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drum118
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toronto647
Active Member
Very interesting.. I guess this makes the above ground portion much more efficient that I imagined. I wonder whether they will permanent remove left turns at other lrt stops along the line. If anyone has any insight whether this would be the case let us know!!
Birchmount Stop
Permanent Left Turn Removal
September 15, 2020
To accommodate the continued construction of Birchmount Stop and as part of the final intersection configuration, the eastbound left turn movement at Eglinton Avenue East and Birchmount Road will be permanently removed as early as September 15, 2020. The westbound left turn movement was removed permanently late 2019.
What to Expect
Permanent removal of the eastbound left turn movement at the Eglinton Avenue East and Birchmount Road intersection. Advanced signage will be installed to alert drivers of the new turn prohibition. As part of the final configuration, left turns will be available at Warden Avenue and Kennedy Road.
Amare
Senior Member
I wonder who's dumb idea that was to remove left hand turning at this major intersection. There's more than enough clearance for an expanded turn lane; this just strikes me as a ridiculous miscalculation.
Birchmount Stop
Permanent Left Turn Removal
September 15, 2020
To accommodate the continued construction of Birchmount Stop and as part of the final intersection configuration, the eastbound left turn movement at Eglinton Avenue East and Birchmount Road will be permanently removed as early as September 15, 2020. The westbound left turn movement was removed permanently late 2019.
What to Expect
Permanent removal of the eastbound left turn movement at the Eglinton Avenue East and Birchmount Road intersection. Advanced signage will be installed to alert drivers of the new turn prohibition. As part of the final configuration, left turns will be available at Warden Avenue and Kennedy Road.
I mean really, they think having Warden and Kennedy alone will be suitable enough for going vehicles going northbound? These planners really need to go for a walk along these corridors before they plan things like this out.
Nevertheless, it *should* improve LRV crossing times along the intersection. I use asterisks because heaven only knows if the TTC will institute their idiotic 10km/h maximum speed policy along intersections.
ARG1
Senior Member
TBH, its decisions like these that make these transit city projects feel less like they were designed to get Toronto moving, and more like a way to make driving more insufferable. Liberals spent years yelling about how LRTs are the future, and yet when the city announces that Eglinton won't have traffic signal priority, all of these same people are suspiciously silent. This isn't about making good transit, this is about making driving worse, which is the absolute worst way of making transit.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
If only the light rail vehicles carry more people than the three or four automobiles turning left. Oh wait....
ARG1
Senior Member
And? What are you trying to argue here? That LRTs are more space efficient than automobiles? Thank you mister obvious.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Except for the bureaucrats and councillors who refuse to enforce REAL transit priority at traffic signal intersections.
11th
Senior Member
Weren't there plans to add U-turns on the cross streets (smaller version of Michigan-left) to accommodate left turn removals?
Birchmount Stop
Permanent Left Turn Removal
September 15, 2020
To accommodate the continued construction of Birchmount Stop and as part of the final intersection configuration, the eastbound left turn movement at Eglinton Avenue East and Birchmount Road will be permanently removed as early as September 15, 2020. The westbound left turn movement was removed permanently late 2019.
What to Expect
Permanent removal of the eastbound left turn movement at the Eglinton Avenue East and Birchmount Road intersection. Advanced signage will be installed to alert drivers of the new turn prohibition. As part of the final configuration, left turns will be available at Warden Avenue and Kennedy Road.
Steve X
Senior Member
Nope, people didn't like the Michigan U. This leaves Left/U-turns at most intersections.
crs1026
Superstar
^Michigan U’s don’t really improve things for a centre median LRT, as there still has to be a disruption to LRT flow when the autos get the green light for their U turn. Might as well let that happen at the intersection.
(Hint: transit priority signalling mumble mumble)
- Paul
(Hint: transit priority signalling mumble mumble)
- Paul
toronto647
Active Member
Is tunnelling an LRT a barrier to creating complete communities & a drain on other badly needed transit investment?
After months confined to a briefing room at Queen’s Park, communicating with journalists by conference call, Doug Ford has recently set out to journey across Ontario. On August 19, he was in Mississauga talking about the Eglinton West LRT extension. Ford announced the release of a request for...
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ARG1
Senior Member
"Complete communities" are a fundamentally flawed concept. While it is possible to have a community where people live and work without having to commute long distances, having EVERYTHING be accessible in a complete community is physically impossible and unachievable. People will still be commuting downtown to get the the Raptors game, or to go to a TSO Concert, a Jazz Club, whatever. Building rapid transit to purely focus on small communities won't achieve the ultimate goal of rapid trans-city transit, and will create incentives for car use because nobody wants to sit for 40 minutes on a slow surface LRT. Grade separated LRTs in turn create a good middle ground where stops are frequent enough to make travelling within a community quick and appealing, while not being overly long to make travelling to other communities or downtown to be too long.Is tunnelling an LRT a barrier to creating complete communities & a drain on other badly needed transit investment?
After months confined to a briefing room at Queen’s Park, communicating with journalists by conference call, Doug Ford has recently set out to journey across Ontario. On August 19, he was in Mississauga talking about the Eglinton West LRT extension. Ford announced the release of a request for...
robmausser
Senior Member
I'd go one further and say that building a transit line for a fully accessible community is the antithesis of rapid transit. A single mode of transportation can be either local or rapid, not both.
pw20
Active Member
Ariel images of Toronto’s Line 1 illustrate this, with groups of towers at stations and single-detached houses between.
I want to be where the people are.
I wanna see, wanna see them dancin'
Riding around on those - what do you call 'em?
Oh - streetcars
I want to be where the people are.
I wanna see, wanna see them dancin'
Riding around on those - what do you call 'em?
Oh - streetcars