Toronto CIBC SQUARE | 241.39m | 50s | Hines | WilkinsonEyre

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^ Have they stopped pouring concrete on the core? Has it 'topped off'? (Is that the term?) Apologies if that's been noted here already.
 
maestro said:
Shadows are the reason 500 metre towers aren't being built in the city.
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Towers 500m tall are not practical in Canada, we just don't have the population and it doesn't make financial sense to build that tall. The only place in North America that makes sense for them is New York City with the dense population and large companies demanding it.

Most supertall/megatall towers outside of NA are being built in cities with large populations in nations that are rapidly developing. Most of these are dictatorships and only care about appearances and filling demand. These large towers are also built as cheaply as possible, most likely with slave labour and lacking tons of safety standards that we enjoy over here.
 
The structure has been topped off, however I believe it will still go a bit higher once they add the crown on?
 
ericmacm said:
Towers 500m tall are not practical in Canada, we just don't have the population and it doesn't make financial sense to build that tall. The only place in North America that makes sense for them is New York City with the dense population and large companies demanding it.

Most supertall/megatall towers outside of NA are being built in cities with large populations in nations that are rapidly developing. Most of these are dictatorships and only care about appearances and filling demand. These large towers are also built as cheaply as possible, most likely with slave labour and lacking tons of safety standards that we enjoy over here.
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Chicago? Same population as Toronto
 
instead of building two 200m towers build one 400+m tower and a park on the rest. hows that?
im still thankful for what we are getting though.

plus there is no 500m building to roof in NYC and CHI either. those spires are cheating.
ericmacm said:
Towers 500m tall are not practical in Canada, we just don't have the population and it doesn't make financial sense to build that tall. The only place in North America that makes sense for them is New York City with the dense population and large companies demanding it.

Most supertall/megatall towers outside of NA are being built in cities with large populations in nations that are rapidly developing. Most of these are dictatorships and only care about appearances and filling demand. These large towers are also built as cheaply as possible, most likely with slave labour and lacking tons of safety standards that we enjoy over here.
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vz64 said:
Chicago? Same population as Toronto
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Chicago is far from its peak population of 3.6M in the 1950s, and its metro is roughly 9.5M. Toronto is 2.7M with a metro of 6M. It's still pretty far off from Chicago in terms of area of influence, and is still around 1M people smaller than peak Chicago.

Most of Chicago's tall structures were built in the 60s-70s (save for Trump Tower) at approximately 3.3-3.5M people. We've still got a long way to go to make a case for very tall buildings to become viable.
 
ericmacm said:
Chicago is far from its peak population of 3.6M in the 1950s, and its metro is roughly 9.5M. Toronto is 2.7M with a metro of 6M. It's still pretty far off from Chicago in terms of area of influence, and is still around 1M people smaller than peak Chicago.

Most of Chicago's tall structures were built in the 60s-70s (save for Trump Tower) at approximately 3.3-3.5M people. We've still got a long way to go to make a case for very tall buildings to become viable.
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Well, you said about New York as the only place where these tall buildings make sense.. Chicago just recently added a 423m tower, not in 70s. Toronto built the tallest structure in the world back in 1976, I think we can come up with another outsanding project (not necessary a super-tall).
 
ericmacm said:
Chicago is far from its peak population of 3.6M in the 1950s, and its metro is roughly 9.5M. Toronto is 2.7M with a metro of 6M. It's still pretty far off from Chicago in terms of area of influence, and is still around 1M people smaller than peak Chicago.

Most of Chicago's tall structures were built in the 60s-70s (save for Trump Tower) at approximately 3.3-3.5M people. We've still got a long way to go to make a case for very tall buildings to become viable.
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Chicago 2.65 million State of Illinois 12.7 million.......Toronto 2.8 million Ontario 15 million.......Toronto has a bigger pop than Chicago and growing....not to mention the economic comparison and wealth isn't even close. Chicago is completely broke has the highest crime and murder ratio in the US......
 
The GTA has a population of about 7 million today not including Hamilton, with a city population of about 3 million.

Chicago's metro is 9.5 million, but it's metro region is defined as an area of 28,000 square kilometres. The GTA is only 7,000. If you were to expand Toronto's boundary to include Kitchener, Guelph, Hamilton, Niagara, Brantford, even Barrie, you would have a more comparable figure.. Which gets you about 9 million. Reality is that commuting patterns across that area are very different than in Chicago too, people don't travel between communities nearly as much as they do in Chicagoland.

So Toronto is still smaller. Maybe not for long though.
 
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