Toronto CIBC SQUARE | 241.39m | 50s | Hines | WilkinsonEyre

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80 Atlantic is heavy timber framing - not steel.
Thanks.

From the look of it, one would think steel and haven't follow this thread closely these days, let alone others. They were installing steel yesterday when I was there on the south side.
 
It's clear that the lobby/podium is going to be structural steel (the anchor plates for the columns are visible), but is it not still possible that they throw down a transfer slab and switch to reinforced concrete for the tower section? We've seen that kind of construction before in Toronto (one example is the condo at Dundas/University, and I believe the new Four Season also has concrete over a steel podium in some areas).

It makes a lot of sense for the lower levels to be steel (especially with the bridge connection for the park, and the high overhead clearances for the bus bays), and I'd like to see more steel go up in Toronto, but I could've sworn someone told me this was going to be another concrete tower.
Its very possible it could be concrete with a transfer floor like 488 University. Time will tell, but moving very fast.

If I could get my hands on a set of drawings, would know in a matter of minutes how it will be built.

Not many steel fabricators around that could do this tower as a joint venture with 1 or 2 other firms since no one in Canada could handle it by themselves due to the tonnages.
 
Well, there we have it. I'm heavily biased, but I'm happy to see another steel tower go up. There should be some interesting connections to watch on those lower levels!
 
that type of graphic hoarding doesn't typically go up around a building core unless it is steel too - the core in a concrete building is poured at the same time as the floors, but in a steel building the core tends to lead ahead by a few floors in front of the steel.
 
that type of graphic hoarding doesn't typically go up around a building core unless it is steel too - the core in a concrete building is poured at the same time as the floors, but in a steel building the core tends to lead ahead by a few floors in front of the steel.

Building of the core in this fashion should also be a clear tell that its a structural steel frame - otherwise the entire slab would be formed at once including the remaining columns. The building has the centre core and then perimeter columns as the only vertical support system. All floors will be open space with no interior columns.
 
With the exception of the elevator core, the underground parking levels and the bus terminal levels (the east side of the podium up to L3) which are all poured concrete structure - the tower superstructure is metal deck with a concrete topping with structural steel framing - similar to Bay Adelaide.

Walters are doing the steel - 15,000 tonnes of it

https://www.waltersgroupinc.com/81-bay-overbuild/

https://www.waltersgroupinc.com/project/81-bay-tower-podium/
That tonnage is for the 2 towers and the park, as well spread over a few year to be done by one supplier. Then, they had more plants to use that I wasn't aware of. I have seen the plant in Brantford from the 403 and no idea who it was until now.

Supper thin framing will be use along the line of BA east tower, not the west tower.

July 31
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Shots of the south side of CIBC Square, from earlier today:

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I like the branding.

Dear CIBC,

Please rebrand the whole damn bank to mesh with the branding for your new HQ. Maybe a red treatment of that squared-diamond pattern? Your current stale logo sucks junk bonds.

Your friend,

Everybody​

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And here are shots from this afternoon of the park structure:

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August 3 - the 5 platforms have been raised one-by-one over the week. Can’t wait for the next jump up and hopefully the introduction of steel columns and framing.

Scotiabank Arena getting some work done on the previous patch job, not sure what they’re working towards though.

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Friday Simcoe Weekend

Westside Story: There is no change at ground level now, all the action is happening on and within the core. Most sections of the core have been jacked up to the level of the exterior forming. It's interesting to watch cause they drop pre-fabricated steel rebar around the perimeter of the core, then raise one section, and add rebar to the interior faces of each section. Then the next section is jacked up and they repeat the process. I'm calling the first core section as the one furthest south. Right now they are working on the rebar on the south wall of the fourth section. Please notice a blue pipe which runs at ground level from south to north on the west side of crane#2, then makes 90' turn east for 10 or 15m then another 90' turn north. It runs between the three workers in hi-viz jackets and then turns 90' into the core itself. (continued in close-up)

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The close-up below shows the articulated concrete pump that has been assembled and connected via a continuation of the blue pipe which can be seen in the lower right of this photo. The white circle of light is a spotlight that for some reason continues to burn as bright as it did all last night.

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Eastside Story: P1 has been completed, some new wall work is being added adjacent to 18 Yonge St, some forming in the south-east corner is the beginning of the final work for the Ground Floor 01. There are round cylinders scattered around the bus depot area waiting to be slipped over the round formed rebar rising from the concrete floor. Closer to the core, running south to north along the curb where the buses will park, the top of columns from lower floors have been capped with steel plates, some with bolts sticking up. They are difficult to see but if you look closely you may be able to count up to five of these plates. I'm assuming these will be the base to which a steel column will eventually be attached.

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Friday Simcoe Weekend

Westside Story: There is no change at ground level now, all the action is happening on and within the core. Most sections of the core have been jacked up to the level of the exterior forming. It's interesting to watch cause they drop pre-fabricated steel rebar around the perimeter of the core, then raise one section, and add rebar to the interior faces of each section. Then the next section is jacked up and they repeat the process. I'm calling the first core section as the one furthest south. Right now they are working on the rebar on the south wall of the fourth section. Please notice a blue pipe which runs at ground level from south to north on the west side of crane#2, then makes 90' turn east for 10 or 15m then another 90' turn north. It runs between the three workers in hi-viz jackets and then turns 90' into the core itself. (continued in close-up)

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The close-up below shows the articulated concrete pump that has been assembled and connected via a continuation of the blue pipe which can be seen in the lower right of this photo. The white circle of light is a spotlight that for some reason continues to burn as bright as it did all last night.

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Eastside Story: P1 has been completed, some new wall work is being added adjacent to 18 Yonge St, some forming in the south-east corner is the beginning of the final work for the Ground Floor 01. There are round cylinders scattered around the bus depot area waiting to be slipped over the round formed rebar rising from the concrete floor. Closer to the core, running south to north along the curb where the buses will park, the top of columns from lower floors have been capped with steel plates, some with bolts sticking up. They are difficult to see but if you look closely you may be able to count up to five of these plates. I'm assuming these will be the base to which a steel column will eventually be attached.

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