enlisant
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When does this building occupy?
Toronto Aqualina at Bayside | 47.85m | 13s | Tridel | Arquitectonica
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Jeff Morgan
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I believe it has started already.
jje1000
Senior Member
I think that it's a bit of a shame that there is this 'either-or' thought, since there are cumulative benefits to well-designed exteriors (and urban environments as a result).
I also think that line of thinking that purchasers live inside and not outside perhaps reflects Tridel's suburban roots- in the downtown core where there isn't as much as room, the public realm essentially is an extension of the living space- which makes the need for good exterior architecture all the more apparent.
There's clearly room for well-designed exteriors, considering that Ten York hasn't disappointed as of yet, and there are plenty of well-designed buildings around the world that managed to balance the exterior and interior needs- I think Tridel just needs to spend the money on higher-class materials, and perhaps accept the occasionally interior oddity in response to exterior archiectural features- or maybe the exteriors just need to be designed in a way that better reflects interior arrangements (no spandrel facades pretending to be all-glass facades).
Tridel has been learning over the past decade from UrbanToronto comments that paying attention to the exterior pays dividends, or at least you can cut down on the number of catcalls a project gets. While they're still taking hits for window wall here, and while not everyone appreciates the Arquitectonica framed boxes design here, they are definitely paying attention to the exteriors now…
at least downtown.
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at least downtown.
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ADRM
Senior Member
I actually had exactly that discussion with someone from Tridel at the recent(ish) Dupont condo public consultation, and he acknowledged that the criticism has been heard over there and said that there's been an effort to respond to it. He pointed directly to the sample material display board for Bianca as evidence that it's more than mere talk.
(Troubling, though, was his genuine surprise that I pointed to this project as evidence that they definitely aren't all the way there, yet...)
innsertnamehere
Superstar
Yup, they are still happy to work with Kirkor on projects like West Village.. but even then their suburban stuff has improved in a way. Material selection is better than it used to be, and they have dropped the kitschy architecture for a cleaner more modern aesthetic, typically. Their project at Islington subway station comes to mind.. simple modern architecture that will likely rely a little too much on spandrel, but an improvement over their projects at Kipling station from a few years ago.
Islington Terrace is not bad, but check out Auberge on the Park at Leslie and Eglinton. They've gone with the plan there that the DRP thought was a bad joke.
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innsertnamehere
Superstar
That's true. Kirkor is generally more capable than G+C. They at least understand basic proportions and site planning.
AndreaPalladio
Senior Member
People have started moving in. The residents on the south end who have styled their balcony with palm trees and a surfboard deserve some sort of prize.
jackass42
New Member
Prize for creativity and imagination?
innsertnamehere
Superstar
The first residents of the East Bayfront. Finally.
skycandy
Senior Member
UpperAvenue
New Member
At night, they have the light feature for topmost northern section on. It's pretty underwhelming, but I guess it's something.
