Toronto 500 Wellington West | ?m | 10s | Freed | Core Architects
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neubilder
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Do you disagree because it doesn't make sense to you, or because you have priced it out?
If concrete is to be left exposed, the formwork has to be close to perfect. Nothing can be corrected or adjusted later. Greater care has to be taken to make sure the finished surface has fewer cosmetic defects. Then the walls have to be boarded up to an un-even ceiling and terminated with a hairline bead that follows the concrete where the drywall meets the ceiling. Drywallers hate these types of details. The top of the wall also must be thoroughly sealed with acoustical sealant if it is a demising wall.
With a gwb ceiling they can simply run their tape over the corner and they're done. Standard boarding and taping are relatively cheap.
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doug
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It doesn't make sense, have you priced it out?
It would be nice if it were, but it isn't and doesn't have to be...look around at any building with exposed concrete, it's not perfect.
Why don't you take a look at a building under construction, you could learn a lot.
If the demising wall is poured concrete, cinder block or a drywall stud partition, they have to be sealed according to the fire code....no getting around this.
Poured concrete is inherently attached to the floor and ceiling anyway, there is no gap.....not sure what your point was.
How many condos or apartment buildings that you know of have drywall ceilings?
The ceilings you see with sprayed on stucco were done that way because it's cheaper then a drywall crew and extra materials.
To sumarise, a bare concrete ceiling is far cheaper for the builder then a dropped drywall ceiling....which is why they're so rare.
You've never hung drywall or picked up a taping knife.
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neubilder
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This conversation is over - the presumptuousness is killing me.
drum118
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June 30
Red Mars
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Pics taken July 10, 2011
Looks like the finishing touch will be a black metallic covering.
A couple pics from the back of the building East elevation.
Looks like the finishing touch will be a black metallic covering.
A couple pics from the back of the building East elevation.
TheKingEast
Senior Member
The black flashing looks pretty cheap. Thansk for the pics
Red Mars
Senior Member
It's already scratched ( from the fence rubbing on it) and has small dents on the corners (probably from the installation.)
neuhaus
Senior Member
the black metal wall panels are disappointing -- though the colour is nice and appropriate for the building. The corners are not creasing smoothly and it's already showing signs of tin-canning. It's looking rather cheap.
I would prefer a pigmented concrete composite rainscreen system like the red panels used at Reve. Much more durable and cleaner looking.
I would prefer a pigmented concrete composite rainscreen system like the red panels used at Reve. Much more durable and cleaner looking.
SpadinaBus
Active Member
If I was Freed, I would ask them to take that corner down and start again. Unacceptable.
S'Bus
junctionist
Senior Member
It's also disappointing that the final cladding is black and hence doesn't provide contrast for the building.
gristle
Senior Member
This probably won't be fixed. It'll be left for the condo board to fight over with the builder at a later date.
Red Mars
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Pic taken August 12, 2011
400WellingtonGuy
Active Member
The black panels they now have up are a different system than the first pictures we saw of the iinstall which were poorly done. Looks much better now.
drum118
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Aug 29
Looks like we have a glasshouse wall problem here. Not sure if this was plan or not, but it looks like crap up close.
Looks like we have a glasshouse wall problem here. Not sure if this was plan or not, but it looks like crap up close.