Undead
Senior Member
From councillor Keith Irish's newsletter:
Markham 2300 John Street | 85.3m | 24s | Primont | Graziani + Corazza
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Undead
Senior Member
From the planning docs:
Cyber98
New Member
Cyber98
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Cyber98
New Member
People on my street are going around hanging these papers on doors trying to get us to appose this development. They are in for a rude awakening.
I don’t understand why they are concerned. That plaza has gotten so bad over the years and now it’s abandoned. I hope this development gets going soon but it looks like it’s gonna be a tough battle.
I don’t understand why they are concerned. That plaza has gotten so bad over the years and now it’s abandoned. I hope this development gets going soon but it looks like it’s gonna be a tough battle.
Undead
Senior Member
Concerns about infrastructure are more than valid after the Feds irresponsibly juiced immigration the last two and a half years.
But "decreased property values" is throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks.
The whole reason this much density is being proposed this deep in the suburbs is because of rising property values i.e. sites becoming more valuable as residential instead of their previous use.
And of course this rising tide lifts all values, including for those who wrote this flyer.
But "decreased property values" is throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks.
The whole reason this much density is being proposed this deep in the suburbs is because of rising property values i.e. sites becoming more valuable as residential instead of their previous use.
And of course this rising tide lifts all values, including for those who wrote this flyer.
Cyber98
New Member
Yea, I could see this entire neighborhood from Steeles to John maybe being a midrise/townhome mixed neighborhood one day. With the Ontario line approaching from the south on Don mills it could maybe even go through here one day rendering my vision a possible reality. Which of course will make the houses in this neighborhood sell at an even bigger price.
chrisw
Active Member
Yes, hopefully this development will be able to revitalize the plaza. More retail options for people close by.
This location has great cycling connectivity. Also connectivity to multiple bus lines. Lots of parks. Great location for density.
This location has great cycling connectivity. Also connectivity to multiple bus lines. Lots of parks. Great location for density.
Undead
Senior Member
Pardon my ignorance, but I don't believe there's good connectivity here.
I don't recall any safe cycling infrastructure in the area, while the 90 Leslie bus is about 15 minutes frequency during peak and 30-40 off peak.
The 3 Thornhill bus is even worse and it has a slow, winding route through neighborhoods.
And the nearest grocery store is a 27 minute walk at Don Mills and Steeles.
There's some good green space, but overall it's a poor location for density.
I don't recall any safe cycling infrastructure in the area, while the 90 Leslie bus is about 15 minutes frequency during peak and 30-40 off peak.
The 3 Thornhill bus is even worse and it has a slow, winding route through neighborhoods.
And the nearest grocery store is a 27 minute walk at Don Mills and Steeles.
There's some good green space, but overall it's a poor location for density.
Arvalan
New Member
The Leslie MUP to Eglin Mills to the north. John/Esna Park MUP to the east.
They also have YRT number 2, not all that frequent but it is York Region
chrisw
Active Member
Cycling Infrastructure: There is a multi-use path going northbound all the way to 19th. Eastbound there's a 2.5 km Multi-Use Path to Esna Park, great separation, but a bit short currently. Southbound there's the German Mills Trail that connects up with both the Duncan Creek Trail and the East Don Parkland Trail.
Buses: If you look at the combined 90/90B frequency there's 10 min peak frequency. Yes, the 3 bus isn't the best, though it boosts Southbound and Westbound Frequency. There's also the 2 East-West Bus, that goes to Finch Station, frequency also isn't the best, 21-25 min peak, 35-50 min off peak. But, the 2 bus is supposed to eventually be part of the frequent transit network, as an East-West Connection between Highway 7 and Steeles.
Yes, YRT bus frequency isn't the best, but that can improve and density is quite helpful for that. Just need to get the frequency/ridership positive feedback loop going.
Grocery Stores: Yes, the nearest grocery store is a 2km away, though with the redevelopment it might be 1.7km or a 23 min walk. It's a 7-8 min bike ride now. That's quite decent. I'm not sure how realistic it is to only zone for density if you're within 1.5km of a grocery store.