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[christiesplits]

Any one else notice the huge number of interior ad frames that sit vacant on the new subway trains? They usually have the white Makrolon "stuffed plastic" backing exposed. Is this a case of passengers stealing the posters or lack of demand for ad space?

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

Any one else notice the huge number of interior ad frames that sit vacant on the new subway trains? They usually have the white Makrolon "stuffed plastic" backing exposed. Is this a case of passengers stealing the posters or lack of demand for ad space?

I wonder if they are just newly delivered ones that they haven't put ads in yet?

 

[P23]

Is there any reason the "stand clear of doors" message can't be played before the chimes? Seems like it would be more useful this way. The message that indicates which doors will open also seems fairly useless, especially if you're seated facing back where 'left' and 'right' just make things more confusing for people.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

The message that indicates which doors will open also seems fairly useless, especially if you're seated facing back where 'left' and 'right' just make things more confusing for people.

It's left and right of forward motion.

 

[P23]

It's left and right of forward motion.

Yes, obviously.

 

[PL1]

Is there any reason the "stand clear of doors" message can't be played before the chimes? Seems like it would be more useful this way.

My understanding is that they don't want people leaning on the closed doors, so that's what's intended with the message. Apparently people leaning on the doors gives a "door open" warning. (This is from what I've heard, no first hand or direct knowledge).

 

[Duck]

Is there any reason the "stand clear of doors" message can't be played before the chimes?

Yes. Because the operator would then have to press the door close button 8 seconds before he or she wants the doors to be closed, rather than the ~3 seconds it is now. In other words, it would create more of a delay.

(Order of operations: Operator pushes door close button. Message starts and completes. Chimes go off. Doors begin to close. Doors close. THEN train can move.)

 

[UD2]

What happened to the retrofit for external speakers?

 

[Voltz]

What happened to the retrofit for external speakers?

I've noticed a few trains with external door chime speakers that don't sound like they are being used yet.

 

[Megaton327]

Saw on twitter somebody posted a photo of a 4-car TR set at Don Mills station on Line 4. Looks like they've started arriving. Brad Ross replied to the linked tweet "Testing one-person train operation on Sheppard with these 4-car train sets."

 

[nfitz]

Hard to make out the car number. Wasn't it set 547 that they'd converted to a 4-car trainset for testing?

The first TR 4-car trainset is supposed to be 614

Looks more like 5476 than 6146 ... but hard to see.

 

[salsa]

So why are the T1s being replaced on Line 4?

 

[Steve X]

Hard to make out the car number. Wasn't it set 547 that they'd converted to a 4-car trainset for testing?

The first TR 4-car trainset is supposed to be 614

Looks more like 5476 than 6146 ... but hard to see.

The first revenue service 4-car TR train haven't arrived yet. That's still the test train.

So why are the T1s being replaced on Line 4?

They need ATC equipped trains to travel down Yonge Line to Davisville yard by 2020. The T1's don't support ATC so they made a last minute decision to ditch T1's on She[[ard.

 

[nfitz]

They need ATC equipped trains to travel down Yonge Line to Davisville yard by 2020. The T1's don't support ATC so they made a last minute decision to ditch T1's on She[[ard.

As a benefit, it frees up 4 more T1 trainsets if they really want to extend the Danforth Line to Scarborough Centre by 2023 - though ironically now they are talking about only 1 new station, perhaps less of an issue.

 

[Steve X]

With only one station, there will be a lot of trains stuck in the tunnel when they need to hold service. Evacuation is going to be annoying too if someone jumps at Kennedy.

Another problem with this extension is the conversion of Line 2 to ATO. It only makes sense to go with new technology meaning TRs will have to move to Line 2 with the opening. If no funding is available to replace the T1's by 2023, this would be a good excuse to delay the extension or install the current block system and ripe it out in a few years. If they do replace the T1's, then they'll replace them at a premature age with another 5-10 years of life. It's going to be gravy either way.