jn_12
Senior Member
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Once these buildings are gone, they cannot be replaced.
AmJ
Ypres says hello.
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Once these buildings are gone, they cannot be replaced.
AmJ
Thanks for the warning
In the future, if I am in the market for a property, I will make sure the building does not have a historical designation, or that one is not being sought for it. I wouldn't want a bunch of busybodies making decisions about my property without having the wherewithal to pony up for the extra costs to me.
Submitted by Berny at 10:37 AM Wednesday, December 16 2009
This is how you know somebody won an argument; when the other side resorts to comments like this.Quoted for posterity. I love it. To summarize:
1) The problem doesn't actually exist. It's all in your head.
2) Anyone not on adma's side is a bonehead and trash.
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Once these buildings are gone, they cannot be replaced. Sometimes there is more at stake than the right of an individual to make a profit.
AmJ
Ypres says hello.
3. No Happy New Year at Downsview Airport
Lloyd Alter, ACO President
Press Release: Monday, January 4
No Happy New Year at Downsview Airport: Canada’s Department of National Defence reneges on delay for negotiations, demands ransom and starts demolition of historic hangars
The Federal Heritage Buildings Review Office said they are historic.
Downsview Park was open to discussing a land swap to take them over.
The Canadian Air and Space Museum was desperate to occupy them.
Politicians, heritage organizations and citizens were behind it.
A prominent Toronto developer, Paul Oberman of Woodcliffe Corporation, was willing to make a major investment in their restoration and reuse.
But none of that mattered to National Defence. In an outrageous letter sent on Christmas Eve, National Defence demanded $20,000 a week to hold off the bulldozers, ransom payments to start December 29. Now they won’t even answer the phone and the demolition has begun in earnest.
Lloyd Alter, President of the Architectural Conservancy of Ontario, has seen it before.
“It’s out of the standard playbook. You take advantage of the holidays, set impossible deadlines and make ridiculous demands, and then tear it down before anyone can act. The whole thing becomes moot and we lose another building that people were willing to invest in and save. And they did it with military precision.
Who would have thought that our heritage was of so little meaning to our Military, that they would act with such cowardice and refuse to negotiate in good faith.”
The Architectural Conservancy of Ontario deplores this action by National Defence. These buildings were valuable assets that were property of all Canadians.
For more information contact Lloyd Alter, President of the Architectural Conservancy of Ontario at 416 346 5738 or by email at lloydalter@gmail.com, or the ACO at 416 367 8075.
Of course. I've been to Ypres. The point made was that once a building is gone it cannot be replaced, which simply isn't true and Ypres is an example of this (though on a grander scale). Obviously, I was only addressing the first part of AMJ's sentence.Please tell me you're aware that Ypres was not replaced by townhouses. AmJ is right.
Of course. I've been to Ypres. The point made was that once a building is gone it cannot be replaced, which simply isn't true and Ypres is an example of this (though on a grander scale). Obviously, I was only addressing the first part of AMJ's sentence.
And, as someone who is currently writing my thesis on heritage preservation, I agree entirely that heritage should come before profits.
now here is what I said:Once these buildings are gone, they cannot be replaced.
The point made was that once a building is gone it cannot be replaced, which simply isn't true and Ypres is an example of this (though on a grander scale). And, as someone who is currently writing my thesis on heritage preservation, I agree entirely that heritage should come before profits.
Seriously? war? no way...
Can anybody elaborate on what is happening right now to the Downsview hangars? Catherine Nasmith sent out the following the other day, but I can't find any coverage of it yet in other media. Anybody have pictures to share with us poor folks downtown?
Demolition Halted To Allow Negotiations; Hold Those Emails!
We are informed by Major A.J. DeBruin that he he has received authorization to stop destructive demolition until Friday morning. He said that "work would continue in the interim but that no materially destructive work would occur until Friday morning", to allow time for an offer to be presented to National Defence.
High level officers in the Military have specifically asked that we stop "the barrage of emails."
I want to thank everyone who supported us in this campaign; clearly it got their attention, finally. No guarantees, but it is the best news we have had to date.
Thank you again; clearly when enough people scream loudly enough, the message can get through.
Regards,
Lloyd Alter
President, Architectural Conservancy of Ontario
It's a shame.. but this is a classic example. the market can't afford $$ to convert to condo. it's in private ownership. hmm what to do? Seriously?