nfitz
Superstar
How long is the walkway at Châtelet? Seems like it goes forever to change trains, but it's always misleading underground ...
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The CityRail Concept: Real Regional Rail for the GTA
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CDL.TO
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Wikipedia has a good diagram of the complex.
The longest connection is between line 7 and the RER, which Wiki says is around 750m.
nfitz
Superstar
Wow ... and line 4 has 2 platforms in the complex ... oops, guess I should have changed to Les Halles instead of Chatelet from the RER. And another day changing from A to 1 felt like forever ... or was I just ignorant and took 7 ... I certainly was regretting not just getting out and walking on the surface by the end of it.
Similar sort of awkward transfers are going to be put in place at Richmond Hill Centre (between GO, TTC, VIVA) and at Agincourt once the Midtown REX is implemented.
Reviving a bit of a old thread here, but I've updated my GO REX system map to reflect some minor changes. There has been a discussion about it in another thread recently, but I figured it would make more sense to put it here.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/43869799/GO REX_v2.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/43869799/GO REX_v2.jpg
diminutive
Active Member
^ What is the little black line which looks like it is connecting from Union station to some kind of Yonge line extension? It looks like it's a part of the Milton line but doesn't seem to appear anywhere outside of downtown.
Dan416
Senior Member
What is Bramlea? lol
It's a connection line, showing the connection between the main Union Station (and the Spadina-Don Mills Subway), and the new Yonge platform just east of Union.
Lol, typo. Fixed.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/43869799/GO REX_v2.jpg
Dan416
Senior Member
Where is the Parkdale station? Queen & Dufferin or around there?
Yup, right at Queen & Dufferin. Very important node for the mid-west end. GO REX, 2 regular GO lines, Queen Streetcar, potential future DRL West up Dufferin, potential WWLRT terminating there as well. Very much the equivalent of the Riverdale Station in the east.
ssiguy2
Senior Member
Don't get what this GO Rex is exactly. How would this differ from the existing GO commuter rail?
DavidJamesTO
Active Member
It would be more of an express service for those living closer to Toronto and more likely to travel there during off-peak hours. Heavy-rail subway is the best way I can think of describing it.
Think of it this way:
1) Stop spacing similar to the current GO system in the 905, more akin to the North Yonge section (every 2km or so) in the 416.
2) Electrified trains running about every 15 minutes off-peak on all 4 lines. Since 2 lines are "overlapping" lines, where they overlap would see a net frequency of 7.5 mins, just above what we would consider subway level service.
So basically, it provides a frequent commuter train for the suburbs, and an express alternative to the subway system in the city. If you want an international comparison, think S-Bahn in Berlin or RER in Paris.
It differs from the current GO rail in that it's electrified, it has greater frequencies, and has more stops inside of Toronto.
Hopefully that clarifies it a little bit! If I had to sum it up in a single sentence, it would be this: "Heavy rail subway with slightly larger than normal stop spacing running above ground using existing rail corridors".
Dan416
Senior Member
If any one concept would make transit in Toronto world-class, it would be this.
ssiguy2
Senior Member
Although the idea is a good one it won't succeed until Toronto integrats the GO fares with the TTC. In other words if the GO fare is $5 and TTC $3.50 then the GO Rex fare would be $1.50.
As it stands right now GO rail is a 905 service and has little effect on Toronto travellers. Some of that is due to lower frequency but most due to expense. GO with a TTC pass/fare is damn expensive and most TTC users are middle/low income and those extra fares take a really big bite out of discretionary income and far to much for a lower income person to absorb especially transit heavy users of single parents, disabled, students, the elderly, and new immigrants.
As I stated in another thread, the best way to bring true rapid transit to all corners of Toronto would be to have all transit on GO rail currently offered in the City of Toronto included in their standard Metropass. A calculation could be done to transfer lost GO revenue from the TTC/City Hall and paid for thru new taxes. The new areas in the further flung Toronto suburbs would be far better served than by any Finch/Shep LRT and those funds could be redirected to electrify the system and buy more trains.
The people from Humber/Woodbine area by being able to access Etiboko North station would be downtown before their LRT even reaches the Spadina Ext. By making GO rail usable for TTC patronss it would GREATLY increase residential and commercial TOD near the GO station which currently is non-existent and it's non-existent for a reason..........the service to Torontonians is relatively useless.
As it stands right now GO rail is a 905 service and has little effect on Toronto travellers. Some of that is due to lower frequency but most due to expense. GO with a TTC pass/fare is damn expensive and most TTC users are middle/low income and those extra fares take a really big bite out of discretionary income and far to much for a lower income person to absorb especially transit heavy users of single parents, disabled, students, the elderly, and new immigrants.
As I stated in another thread, the best way to bring true rapid transit to all corners of Toronto would be to have all transit on GO rail currently offered in the City of Toronto included in their standard Metropass. A calculation could be done to transfer lost GO revenue from the TTC/City Hall and paid for thru new taxes. The new areas in the further flung Toronto suburbs would be far better served than by any Finch/Shep LRT and those funds could be redirected to electrify the system and buy more trains.
The people from Humber/Woodbine area by being able to access Etiboko North station would be downtown before their LRT even reaches the Spadina Ext. By making GO rail usable for TTC patronss it would GREATLY increase residential and commercial TOD near the GO station which currently is non-existent and it's non-existent for a reason..........the service to Torontonians is relatively useless.