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Silence&Motion said:
Question: Have the Fords "started" their campaign yet?
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Robbie himself began saying a couple of years ago that the campaign for 2014 had already started. He meant it. By that time he'd completely run out of ideas, and never had a grasp on how to implement them with council anyway. He has no clue about what the job of mayor actually entails, all he knows how to do is press the flesh, stick magnets on cars and repeat dumb slogans three times in a row.
 
Silence&Motion said:
Question: Have the Fords "started" their campaign yet?

Yesterday, during CP24's interview with Rob (the one where they failed to ask him even basic questions like how he expects to pay for his 3 subway lines or about the $1 billion claim), the reported asked him "When will you be starting your campaign?". His response was at first a kind of deer-in-the-headlights stare, and then nervous laughter. He never really answered the question.

I was under the assumption that they had started their campaign. It's just a really unorganized, underfunded campaign. I expect Ford to just show up for the debates, continue touring suburban apartment buildings, filming YouTube videos, and repeating his standard campaign promises ("we're gonna build subways on Sheppard, Finch, and downtown; we're gonna contract out the rest of the garbage service; we need to get a new union deal done; etc).

Does anyone think that there's going to be a more formal campaign start, or an actual platform?
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This is it. You're looking at it.
 
mrtinfoilsocket said:
No of course he can't because it didn't happen. He's referring to a cheque in an abstract sense. For example - a co-op's mandate is to provide some portion of their units as geared to income (and the rest at market rent). In return they (the co-op) get a government subsidy of some kind. So the argument is that the people paying "market rent" paid a lower rent due to those subsidies. So therefore Jack got a "cheque". See how dishonest this smear is? In reality the co-ops couldn't function without those people of regular income paying market rent..
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There are a number of different subsidies that people living in Co-ops can get from the different levels of government. Municipal and Provincial are pretty simple, and the municipality actually manages who lives in their units, as part of TCHC. So, we (I live in one) say that we have X number of spots that we make available to TCHC tennants, the TCHC sends them to us, we place them in whatever appropriate unit is available at the time, and TCHC pays all or a portion of their housing charge. Province is much the same, although I don't know how who gets it is managed, in that the province just pays all/some of the housing charge for the people who have those spots.

Now the CMHC subsidy is a bit different. CMHC gives us a bucket of money in an amount based on our mortgage payment. It's not 1:1, but a couple years ago when our mortgage payment went down, our CMHC grant went down too. We use that as subsidies for low income people in much the same way as for municipal and provincial subsidized residents - we get them to pay based on their ability, either all or some of the housing charge. the CMHC subsidy pays the rest. In some cases, like when our CMHC subsidy dropped, we then made up the difference to those residents by paying it out of our general revenues.

All other residents/members pay the full housing charge, which we call market rent, but really isn't based on the market, just based on how much cash we need for mortgage/operational costs/capital costs etc. Effectively, for us, 100% of all our costs are funded by our housing charges and other misc income like parking and investments, the CMHC money is used to help pay for the housing charges of some residents who need the help, and the full housing charge is paid by the rest of our tenants. Our market rate actually ends up being significantly lower than what an equivalent rental would be, but the only real difference is that we aren't paying for any profit. I pay market rent, and I can honestly say that I am using up zero subsidy.

(I've removed my speculation here, because I did more research and it was wrong)
Here's what then happened:

O&J then, 3 months before the star story broke, voluntarily started paying an extra $325 a month to the coop to make up the difference between the 'market rent' and how much equivalent apartments around there cost. Basically, they were donating extra money to the coop because they could, and probably to counteract any suggestion that they were taking advantage of the situation. Which they never were.
 
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The Golem said:
Question: how drunk will Ford get on St. Patrick's Day?
a. Just a few pops in the basement
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Overly-sensitive GavinTheAlmighty incoming, but I find his minimizing of his alcohol addiction to folksisms like this to be incredibly infuriating. Every time he says this, I just want someone nearby to pipe up "By which he means several alcoholic beverages. You may also recall that Ford has promised to quit drinking several times."

One of my wife's family members is a chronic alcoholic and it is nothing to be minimized. It is horrible, and the only reason he's not literally in the gutter is because he has the family money keep his house running.
 
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You noobs may be amused that my slogan 4 year's ago correctly predicted the outcome of that election many months ahead: Have you voted for a Ford ... lately.

It sure was popular with the UT hipsters.:p

I am still thinking of this year's catchy slogan.

(For the record I could care less who wins--RF, like all mayors before him, has not affected my life in anyway--other than reading this thread.)
 
tiffer24 said:
Doug Ford is the best campaign manager ever, and I urge him to continue this good fight against Kevin Spacey and the rest of the socialist tax-and-spend Hollywood elite. Next week: the Fords take on Meryl Candidate.
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This video encapsulates EXACTLY what I said last week. These guys aren't using Rob's celebrity to get him re-elected mayor, they are using the mayoral campaign to launch his celebrity career.

If this had anything to do with the campaign it wouldn't be the campaign manager sounding like a petulant child, cutting off the totally-lost mayoral candidate talking about nothing. You have Rob - who was allegedly in LA to boost our film industry - admitting (with eyes closed) he has no clue who Kevin Spacey is and doesn't watch movies.

This has ZERO to do with the mayoral campaign, ostensibly the reason Ford Nation exists; to get their message out through the biased media. This is their attempt to "Go viral," and it's a sad, sad effort in that regard.
 
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