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Road Safety & Vision Zero Plan

Just to showcase how screwed up the driveway alignments are on Leslie at Nymark where today's hit and run happened:

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Green = right-turn movements;
Red = left-turn movements;
Yellow = desire path/accident site

I live here.

I constantly see people jaywalk here.
 
Not squarely Vision Zero, sorta a bit that, and a bit public realm maintenance......... (or prevention of same)............

Transportation Operations Mgr Becky Katz posted a simple, but quality solution to a well worn desire line on her social:

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After:

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Her Caption:

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From: https://bsky.app/profile/beckykatz.bsky.social/post/3lzkgtgiass2b
Here is another location where some paving (or a few more feet of fencing) would be sensible. David Crombie Park @ The Esplanade & L:eek:wer Sherbourne:

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or Eireann Quay & Bathurst - Little Norway Park

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Much as I like grass, sometimes a bit of concrete is better!
 
I constantly see people jaywalk here.
I don't see an intersection there - so it's just crossing the street - 100% legal. And not particularly surprising given that there's a medial building on one side, and a Shoppers Drug Mart on the other side.

What's surprising is that it's over 600 metres between traffic lights., with people living on both sides of the street. And a bus stop half-way between! That means people are expected to cross the street.

Though this point is closer to (about 125 metres) from the southern light. If it's a really busy pedestrian crossing point, then there should be a crosswalk or a (pedestrian-demand only?) traffic light.

Certainly a poor design. Good grief, does every complex/place need 2 driveway entrances? That little strip mall has no less than 5 - there isn't even a protected place to walk from Leslie to Shoppers - you just march through the parking lot.
 
Just to showcase how screwed up the driveway alignments are on Leslie at Nymark where today's hit and run happened:

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Green = right-turn movements;
Red = left-turn movements;
Yellow = desire path/accident site

I live here.

I constantly see people jaywalk here.


@nfitz is correct that 'jaywalking' here, that is to say, crossing the road between regulated points to do so is perfectly legal and understandable.

However, I disagree with adding another traffic light only 150m from Nymark. I don't think that's the correct solution. Indeed, depending on where you put it, the relationship of that point to all the various other road accesses could make matters worse.

@afransen is on point, though, if you think about block density in the older city vs out here, or all the bungalows w/the driveways on Royal York or Victoria Park, the number of accesses is only slightly high, its the manner and location of them, and the road design interacting in a bad way that is a real issue here.

I can map out of a series of changes, but I'm not sure what means the City has to impose access closures outside of the redevelopment process ( I've asked though, because you've got me curious). The City could 'incent' some changes as an alternative.

Taking through lanes out is not going to happen here, but access changes aside, the middle turning lane needs to be more interrupted, by landscaping or a barrier, such as to make it clear where turning movements are permitted and desirable and to make some no longer possible.

Some quick thoughts below. Again, I'm not sure we can get the private accesses closed, but this is how I might suggest some safety improvements here at first blush. This is quick and dirty so apologies if I've missed something obvious.

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Red is a closed vehicle access
Orange is a barrier/landscape feature forcing the gas station to be right-in, right-out only.
Green Lines represent permitted turning movements.
Green Circle is a pedestrian refuge Island.

The developments here are not well done from a road access/pedestrian safety point of view, but terminating all access to existing private property is definitely not feasible.

My suggestion retains one or more access points to all sites. I chose to remove the second, smaller access to the medical centre, because it looks operationally feasible (the lot could handle all the exists at the north end). The alternative would be a consolidated driveway with the town homes to the south, given that both are private property and lack a common owner, that struck me as harder to make work. There would also be desires on both sides to prevent intrusion of traffic from the other.

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Were private owners uncooperative, and there no other alternative, I would suggest obstructing all turn movements across Leslie at non-regulated intersections (all accesses become Right-in, Right-Out). This would be wildly unpopular, which I hope would encourage cooperation.

The object is to make traffic/turning movements more predictable and visible. And also to create a safe place for pedestrians to stand mid-crossing.
 
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Given Doug Ford's proposed speed camera ban, a few petitions were launched in response.

- https://www.change.org/p/stop-premier-ford-from-cutting-speed-safety-cameras-in-ontario
- https://www.progresstoronto.ca/petition-protect-kids-keep-speed-cameras

There will also be a direct action taking place on Saturday, October 4 (10 AM) at Dundas & Bloor.

- https://www.facebook.com/events/1126422996274092

When this first happened, there was a Ford sound bite on 680 News where Ford described driving off the 401 at Eglinton and being “surprised” by a speed camera somewhere around Martin Grove. I would hope that someone factchecks that drive - I am willing to bet that he must have driven by 2 or 3 speed limit signs plus signs about the camera itself. A good opportunity to call him out.

Ford’s position is fundamentally that he wants peeople to drive in a carefree and unthinking manner without consequences for any errors or omissions for inattentiveness.

The “tax grab” argument is ridiculous when one considers how much Ford has created rebates and levers. By all means, direct the funds collected to some central source but then rebate it in some manner - the swear jar approach. Maybe an annual income tax break for insurance payments. Or a payment to municipalities on some other basis.
Wouldn’t be the first time Ford has sent out cheques to buy votes.

- Paul
 
Were private owners uncooperative, and there no other alternative, I would suggest obstructing all turn movements across Leslie at non-regulated intersections (all accesses become Right-in, Right-Out). This would be wildly unpopular, which I hope would encourage cooperation.

The object is to make traffic/turning movements more predictable and visible. And also to create a safe place for pedestrians to stand mid-crossing.

While across the pond recently, I noted just how willing other jurisdictions are to install barriers that do constrain pedestrian crossing to certain safer and more predictable locations.
In particular I saw it used to channel pedestrians toward signalised crossings and away from bad visibility intersections, which are especially common over there thanks to non-grid road layout. Some of the installations were used to move the crossing point away from the apex of intersection corners so that the stopping point for vehicles and the crosswalks were set back from the corner itself. We tend to assume that the exact corner is where crosswalks should be found.
This might or might not be a good solution in this particular location for this particular problem, but I simply make the point that we tend to underuse this approach and maybe it should be one option considered more frequently.

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- Paul
 
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While across the pond recently, I noted just how willing other jurisdictions are to install barriers that do constrain pedestrian crossing to certain safer and more predictable locations.
In particular I saw it used to channel pedestrians toward signalised crossings and away from bad visibility intersections, which are especially common over there thanks to non-grid road layout.
This might or might not be a good solution in this particular location for this particular problem, but I simply make the point that we tend to underuse this approach and maybe it should be one option considered more frequently.

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- Paul

I wouldn't say 'never' to these; but in general 'caging' pedestrians sounds like a bad idea to me. Its a way to discourage walking, its additional infrastructure to maintain, its a way to encourage speeding, and indifferent driving.

We can all recognize there's the rare spot where there are no good design solutions, and forcing people to use the less bad one is a necessary evil. But that should be a sparingly resorted to option.
 
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I wouldn't say 'never' to these; but in general 'caging' pedestrians sounds like a bad idea to me. Its a way to discourage walking, its additional infrastructure to maintain, its a way to encourage speeding, and indifferent driving.

We can all recognize there's the rare spot where there are no good design solutions, and forcing people to use the less bad one is a necessary evil. But that should be a sparingly resorted to option.

I would agree that if anyone feels “caged”, we have done it wrong. But asking for a detour of 50 meters should not be seen as a disincentive to walking. It’s more a matter of reminding that hey, it may be safer to make a slight detour. I especially like the setback it allows for vehicle stops, and the reduction in random crossing points that drivers may not identify at speed.
“Gently and subtly herded” I can live with.
The prerequisite first step has to be to ensure that there are no long road stretches without proper, well signed and perhaps signalised crossing points… to address the temptation to take a chance, and to make the crossing a measured pace instead of a desperate dash.

- Paul
 
I would agree that if anyone feels “caged”, we have done it wrong. But asking for a detour of 50 meters should not be seen as a disincentive to walking. It’s more a matter of reminding that hey, it may be safer to make a slight detour. I especially like the setback it allows for vehicle stops, and the reduction in random crossing points that drivers may not identify at speed.
“Gently and subtly herded” I can live with.
The prerequisite first step has to be to ensure that there are no long road stretches without proper, well signed and perhaps signalised crossing points… to address the temptation to take a chance, and to make the crossing a measured pace instead of a desperate dash.

- Paul

An optimal distance between formal road crossings is 200-500m.

Split that into two, you're asking for 100m-250m walks.

Sorry, Paul, on this one we part ways.
 
I would agree that if anyone feels “caged”, we have done it wrong. But asking for a detour of 50 meters should not be seen as a disincentive to walking.
50 metres perhaps (though there are lights that aren't much more than that. The example we've been discussing is closer to 120 ... and with 600 metres between lights, and bus stop half-way in between, there's clearly a need for more signals.

Leslie is densifying. Just south of there there's now a major development on the west. It's going to become much more urbanized street, and will need more crossings and a slower limit, as the years pass.
 
Given Doug Ford's proposed speed camera ban, a few petitions were launched in response.

- https://www.change.org/p/stop-premier-ford-from-cutting-speed-safety-cameras-in-ontario
- https://www.progresstoronto.ca/petition-protect-kids-keep-speed-cameras

There will also be a direct action taking place on Saturday, October 4 (10 AM) at Dundas & Bloor.

- https://www.facebook.com/events/1126422996274092
I honestly believe that slapping speed cameras everywhere is just holding us back from the improvements we actually need. It's no better than the infamously flawed 85th percentile speed rule, we are just placing cameras everywhere the same way Toronto has been slapping speed limits with 0 relation to road design geometry whatsoever. The real change lies in road design- lane width, turning radii, chicanes, speed bumps, etc. That's how you actually manage speed if you care, you ideally shouldn't even need to look at your speedometer to travel the road's design speed, it will just feel natural to go that speed. Maybe once cameras are banned it will force Toronto to actually come up with solutions. I'm not against speed cameras in principle, its just that we've been using them as an excuse for far to long to leave our 5-7 lane stroads untouched and endlessly put off any real change for no apparent reason (ahem Parkside). Speed cameras should be a last resort if there is really nothing else that can be done.

The thing Ford actually needs to do is find a way to dramatically speed up projects. We're all tired of endless studies that don't do anything and waste years.
 

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