PM Justin Trudeau's Canada

[kEiThZ]

I hope these fools are as tough on PM Poilievre next year. Trudeau's likely to be on the speaking circuit and leading some UN agency or NGO soon thereafter, so the F Trudeau signs will be obsolete.

This is like expecting MAGA supporters to criticize Trump. Anybody that is flag waving is a partisan culture warrior. They'll be waving those flags at the pro-Poilievre rally in 2029. In 2050, they'll still be talking about how evil Justin Trudeau secretly controls the Liberals and wants to lock them in their 15 minute communities.

 

[kEiThZ]

This could end up being Trudeau's legacy.

Geoff Russ: Why would Quebec want to stay in Trudeau's beleaguered Canada?

Having ruined the economy, vilified our history and extinguished patriotism, the PM has undermined the argument for a united Canada

nationalpost.com

 

[jje1000]

This could end up being Trudeau's legacy.

Geoff Russ: Why would Quebec want to stay in Trudeau's beleaguered Canada?

Having ruined the economy, vilified our history and extinguished patriotism, the PM has undermined the argument for a united Canada

nationalpost.com

Exactly, during a decade of global uncertainty and centrifugal forces spinning nations apart, what was needed was a leader who could lead Canada, patch up its institutions (hardly decayed through back then), and reaffirm its federal identity.

Instead, Canada and Canadians got blamed and shamed, blood libeled, and our founding history unfairly attacked (see Dundas as our local instance) endlessly through his sunny first years, and now Trudeau and the Liberals somehow flap helplessly in the wind as the crises they both fostered and created come home to roost, with the collective national morale nearly emptied at this crucial juncture in time.

If there ever is another referendum, what can the Federal government point to as being any positives of Canada beyond the image of Canada 10-20 years ago? The defeat of such a referendum may very much rely on those cohorts of aspirational immigrants and Quebeckers who still see this faded old image of Canada as a place worth staying in.

 

[afransen]

Support for independence is no where near where it would need to be to warrant a referendum, recently at 35%. I don't see a flashpoint that would trigger a substantial change in that dynamic.

Parti Quebecois remain in front, but many don't support sovereignty: Poll

A new poll shows that if a Quebec election were held today, the Parti Quebecois would come out on top with 32 per cent support, but many say they are uninterested in a sovereignty referendum.

montreal.ctvnews.ca

 

[kEiThZ]

Support for independence is no where near where it would need to be to warrant a referendum, recently at 35%.

That is what is was in 1994. And then the referendum happened a year later and we nearly lost the country.

I don't see a flashpoint that would trigger a substantial change in that dynamic.

I do. Cultural issues especially with integration of immigrants and the recent leftist deference to religious minorities is not playing well in Quebec. The Rest of Canada gave them a ton of crap for banning religious symbols including the hijab in public institutions and jobs. This is a fundamental difference with English Canada and can easily be spun to make Francophones believe they need to leave to be able to control their destiny. Trudeau's immigration policy is not helping either.

 

[kEiThZ]

Tom Mulcair: Park littered with trash after 'pilot project' is perfect symbol of Trudeau governance

Former NDP leader Tom Mulcair says that what's happening now in a trash-littered federal park in Quebec is a perfect metaphor for how the Trudeau government runs things.

www.ctvnews.ca

There's a few paras that capture this government perfectly.

1) The hypocrisy and faux concern;

There is a formula.

You emote about climate change but spend $35 billion on a pipeline to increase oil production. Show up for armed forces parades but cut their budgets year after year (until an election year when voters are becoming embarrassed by our failure to meet our NATO obligations). You say housing isn’t federal jurisdiction until younger voters are about to throw you out for failing to build houses for their generation, then you scramble and pose for the cameras.

2) The incompetence defined by faux sophistication and moral obligation (on others) without substance:

Last week the federal employees responsible for the park decided to remove the garbage cans. All of the garbage cans. Not surprisingly, people who live in the area are upset.
There’s now garbage everywhere and bags full of dog poop are being left on their lawns.The federal announcement is a masterwork of high-sounding bureaucratese. It is one for the ages. Here’s my favourite part:

"We know that actions in the field have been taken quickly and could have surprised some people. An awareness campaign is being prepared," reads a statement by Parks Canada(opens in a new tab). "This pilot project to reduce waste at the Lachine Canal NHS includes the withdrawal or relocation of garbage bins as well as potentially new types of facilities in strategic areas of the canal. It is important to remember that waste management remains everyone’s responsibility and duty."

Everyone’s, apparently, except the people who are paid to remove it. It’s just such a magnificent parable for the federal government of Justin Trudeau.
All that’s missing is a multi-million dollar contract to McKinsey to study it.

I am really curious to eventually read some kind of book on how they let things get so bad and how they lost touch with reality.

 

[kamira51]

This could end up being Trudeau's legacy.

Geoff Russ: Why would Quebec want to stay in Trudeau's beleaguered Canada?

Having ruined the economy, vilified our history and extinguished patriotism, the PM has undermined the argument for a united Canada

nationalpost.com

The article hit the nail on the head perfectly.

 

[Admiral Beez]

Senate passes Ukraine aid, Israel funding and TikTok crackdown, sending bill to Biden's desk

The package of foreign aid and a TikTok divest-or-ban provision is expected to be signed into law by President Joe Biden in the coming days.

www.nbcnews.com

Nice!

1) The US has done exponentially more for Ukraine than Canada has.

And meanwhile Ottawa dithers on further lethal aid to Ukraine. Trudeau; please send all of our Leopard 2s and ARVs, half of our M113 APCs and LAV IIIs, every single 155mm shell in our stocks, most of our body armour, night vision and communication kits. And then there's ATGMs, SAMs, small arms, etc. Strip the cupboards bare, even if it takes us a decade to replenish.

 

[123GTA123]

Tokenism.

And won't do much when we are growing this fast:

Canada’s population hits 41M months after breaking 40M threshold | Globalnews.ca

Nine months after reaching 40 million people, Canada cracked a new threshold on Wednesday, the same day Statistics Canada released a report showing the pace of population growth.

globalnews.ca

This article goes over the fact that Millennials and Zoomers have substantially soured on this government and have moved from Liberals to Conservatives. It's going to take results (where they actual see better affordability) than simply a pledge of having a better credit score.

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Majority of changes won't have a real impact including that small fund for legal assistance. However, I do think creating measures where Credit Score can be increased via Rental Payments does provide benefits. Renter Bill of Rights is interesting and can provide more access to information which is always positive, but won't have any real impact since people already have an idea on what the state of the rental market is when they are looking for a property.

 

[kEiThZ]

I do think creating measures where Credit Score can be increased via Rental Payments does provide benefits.

I don't see it. Banks aren't super concerned with credit score when giving out mortgages because they have collateral and mortgage insurance. This is simply an attempt to reward landlords couched in terms of helping renters. Guess what is going to happen with millions of small time landlords reporting to credit bureaus. And just imagine the problems of dealing with a person like that for erroneous or even malicious reporting.

This government has all but given up on fixing housing and is hoping tokenism and press releases will fool and appease enough young people to at least avoid voting Conservative. And that's what this is a all about. The Liberals didn't give a fig as long as young people were moving to the NDP. They only started caring when young people started defecting to the CPC. That's a real short term and long term threat. But they have zero willingness to do anything that cost votes with older folks (who also happened to be landlords). So that's why we have policies like this.

 

[evandyk]

Yeah, it was discussed above, but the credit score thing is really poorly thought out. It's unlikely to offer any benefit to renters and creates the possibility to them of a real detriment through bad reporting that is difficult to fix.

 

[123GTA123]

I don't see it. Banks aren't super concerned with credit score when giving out mortgages because they have collateral and mortgage insurance. This is simply an attempt to reward landlords couched in terms of helping renters. Guess what is going to happen with millions of small time landlords reporting to credit bureaus. And just imagine the problems of dealing with a person like that for erroneous or even malicious reporting.

This government has all but given up on fixing housing and is hoping tokenism and press releases will fool and appease enough young people to at least avoid voting Conservative. And that's what this is a all about. The Liberals didn't give a fig as long as young people were moving to the NDP. They only started caring when young people started defecting to the CPC. That's a real short term and long term threat. But they have zero willingness to do anything that cost votes with older folks (who also happened to be landlords). So that's why we have policies like this.

I'm not saying this policy results will be massively beneficial. I am stating that there are some minor benefits to it, just to clarify my point. I agree, majority of the time any Score above 680 will allow you access majority of mortgage products that someone with a 800 Score has.

In terms of how the program would be delivered, I would think the most efficient way to deliver it would be through the CRA since Rents paid are reported to them (Both by Tenant and Landlord). CRA would then report to Credit Agencies.I don't see too many difficulties in being able to generate Receipts on Rental payments so that there is a record in case of disputes.

Personally, I dont even think that the Liberal Government gives a shit about Housing Policy. All levels of Government have chosen not to take the steps necessary to create affordable housing and the Federal Government continues this trend when they should be leading the way.

 

[kEiThZ]

I'm not saying this policy results will be massively beneficial. I am stating that there are some minor benefits to it, just to clarify my point. I agree, majority of the time any Score above 680 will allow you access majority of mortgage products that someone with a 800 Score has.

The benefits are so minimal, it's just not worth the effort. Think of the bureaucracy involved in managing this and all possible conflicts:

In terms of how the program would be delivered, I would think the most efficient way to deliver it would be through the CRA since Rents paid are reported to them (Both by Tenant and Landlord). CRA would then report to Credit Agencies.I don't see too many difficulties in being able to generate Receipts on Rental payments so that there is a record in case of disputes.

What's the point of doing? I would genuinely like to see their analysis of how many people can't buy a home because of a lack of credit history (as their sole obstacle). I suspect, it's less than a percent. Yet, they now have an idea that might require hundreds to thousands of possible CRA employees to make sure that the majority of renters don't get screwed by mistakes or malicious reporting. Did the credit bureaus write this policy?

Personally, I dont even think that the Liberal Government gives a shit about Housing Policy. All levels of Government have chosen not to take the steps necessary to create affordable housing and the Federal Government continues this trend when they should be leading the way.

This government all but does not give a damn about anybody under 50. Virtually everything they do is in the interest of our landed gentry seniors. I'm starting to think even their passion for climate policy is less about doing good than assuaging the guilt of Boomers over absolutely screwing over future generations.

Housing is the tip of the iceberg. Look at the birth rate right now and consider the long term implications. Every Alpha born today will be supporting two Millennials or Gen X'ers beyond 2050. And most of those Millennials are going to reach retirement with less wealth than their parents and with a more indebted government. And did all that debt build us better hospitals, better transit, top research labs, a stronger military? Nope. It went to prop up the asset value of Boomer and Gen X homes. Canada's policy framework in a nutshell can be summed up in this one famous painting:

Saturn Devouring His Son - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[yrt+viva=1system]

You know things are bad when the New York Time’s has an article on the Liberals:

At stake is something that matters more than one politician’s career: Canada’s contemporary liberal and multicultural society, which just happens to be the legacy of the prime minister’s father and predecessor, Pierre Trudeau. When you fly into Montreal, you land in Trudeau airport, and that’s because of Pierre, not Justin.

The threat to that liberal tradition is not all Justin Trudeau’s fault, of course. The right-wing tide overwhelming global politics has come late but with pent-up vigor to Canada. For several years now, polls have shown Mr. Trudeau’s Liberals at lows from whichno Canadian political party has ever recovered in elections. In a recent by-election, in a key suburban district of the Greater Toronto Area, the Conservative Party beat the Liberals by a lopsided 57 percent to 22 percent, a swing of nine percentage points to the Conservatives.

But an era has passed since the start of that halcyon time, when Mr. Trudeau stood in front of his first cabinet and, when asked why it was half female, answered, “Because it’s 2015.” Now a new generation has emerged, for which the liberal technocratic order his government represents has failed to offer a path to a stable, prosperous future and the identity politics he once embodied have withered into vacuous schism. The growing anti-Liberal Party sentiment of young people is the biggest threat to his electability.

His opponents are well aware of Mr. Trudeau’s unpopularity with young voters and have focused Conservative attacks on an issue especially important to that cohort: the housing crisis. The soaring real estate market, in which tiny homes in Toronto and Vancouver now regularly cost more than properties in Paris or New York, has been exacerbated by the Trudeau government bringing in over a millionimmigrants last year without having built the necessary infrastructure to support the communities receiving them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/28/opinion/justin-trudeau-right-wing-canada.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/28/opinion/justin-trudeau-right-wing-canada.html

 

[afransen]

As much as people are fretting about the Canadian consensus breaking on immigration, I'm not sure that is actually the case. PP and the CPC are just talking about moderating immigration and returning to historic norms at a fairly high but not extreme level. The Liberals are also pumping the brakes after letting immigration run out of control.