vic
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Unfortunately, that's still somewhat limited. For trains, that pretty much only means VIA trains that cross provincial boundaries.
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Novel Coronavirus COVID-19 (nCoV-2019)
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tiffer24
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O'Toole statement on this.
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lenaitch
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Good point. I have no clue what childhood inoculations I got; I just assume I got them all because that's the way it was done back then. We were all marched past the school nurse (remember those) - I'm not convinced there was even a parental permission slip involved. The wife was recently in Emerg and was in the same boat, so they put down 'unknown' - there's no category for 'I think so'. If boosters for them are recommended, then I'm way behind. I know I'm probably behind on tetanus. I think they recommend every 10 years and I'm about 20.
It would be interesting to hear a legal view on this in relation to intra-province VIA rail. They are still federally regulated. Little different than a flight from Toronto to Ottawa.
Can't alienate the extreme right with an election looming. I wonder what their position is for party staffers, particularly those in his inner circle. He should have an intimate lunch with Oosterhoff and family.
afransen
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Employer has said they won't require vaccination for office attendance!
afransen
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Full 'I give up' mode.
AlvinofDiaspar
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They never even tried - other than to sow confusion and dissent. Ye, reap what you sow.
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Jonny5
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So it is an indefinite Stage 3 at this point. Limits on indoor gathering to continue and I bet this spooks the hell out of downtown office employers who were still thinking of a September return to push it off to January. That's gonna be a death blow to some businesses that are still hoping to hang on... if only there was some kind of vaccine passport system....
I just saw on CP24 that Shopify will be requiring employees attending in person meetings to be vaccinated
afransen
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A good first step. I think going back to thousands of cases per day is already baked in, unfortunately.
My direct manager has been in the office 3/5 days this week. He seems very blase about the risks. They have been doing in person meetings, most of which were unmasked. As we have learned, distance is not really that big of a protective factor. Having hundreds of people in an effectively enclosed space, not wearing masks and talking all day seems like a recipe for continued transmission, even among vaccinated people. I really do not understand the desire to be in person so much more than is strictly necessary.
My direct manager has been in the office 3/5 days this week. He seems very blase about the risks. They have been doing in person meetings, most of which were unmasked. As we have learned, distance is not really that big of a protective factor. Having hundreds of people in an effectively enclosed space, not wearing masks and talking all day seems like a recipe for continued transmission, even among vaccinated people. I really do not understand the desire to be in person so much more than is strictly necessary.
gabe
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We may want to wait a while, before we start sending workers back to the office. Israel, one of the most vaccinated countries in the world is seeing a big surge in cases and hospitalizations. This is a country of only 9 million people.
www.israelnationalnews.com
Even fully vaccinated people are at risk. CDC adds Israel to highest risk countries for catching Covid
6,275 new COVID cases in one day as infection rate soars
Number of seriously ill COVID patients rises to 394, while number of daily new confirmed cases nearly doubles.
www.israelnationalnews.com
Even fully vaccinated people are at risk. CDC adds Israel to highest risk countries for catching Covid
COVID-19 in Israel - COVID-19 Very High - Level 4: COVID-19 Very High - Travel Health Notices | Travelers' Health | CDC
Avoid travel to Israel, including the West Bank and Gaza. If you must travel to Israel, including the West Bank and Gaza, make sure you are vaccinated and up to date with your COVID-19 vaccines before travel.
wwwnc.cdc.gov
AlvinofDiaspar
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I think being cautious is the prudent thing to do - better delay further relaxation of restrictions than having to walk back and cause even more shock.
What I am truly concerned about is what happens when we reach September - when schools reopen and a lot of WFH businesses transition to at least partial BTO; nevermind going forward in Fall and Winter - when we know respiratory diseases are always on the uptick. We also need to see more data on how effective vaccination is against serious disease for Delta in the runup to the Fall.
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What I am truly concerned about is what happens when we reach September - when schools reopen and a lot of WFH businesses transition to at least partial BTO; nevermind going forward in Fall and Winter - when we know respiratory diseases are always on the uptick. We also need to see more data on how effective vaccination is against serious disease for Delta in the runup to the Fall.
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Jonny5
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So whoever needs to make the call on a third-shot booster needs to do it soon because, I assume the time from that approval to needles in arms will require at least 90 days of ironing out the operations and logistics again.