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Another interesting comparison would be employee $ per rider. Does anyone have those numbers?
If the TTC is getting worse, why is ridership growing? Negative public perception is growing because ridership is growing. More and more people have started relying on the TTC as their sole means of transportation, and so complaints about poor customer serivce or major delays are more prominent. Customer service has been forced into becoming a major priority because record numbers of transit users are noticing how poor it is, and demanding improvement.
I think some of this is due to changes in labour standards. Limiting the amount of overtime, for example.
Well, you've just admitted my point, which is that the TTC's service is poor. And it won't get better until transit advocates stop being apologists for the status quo.
For some reason, these limits to overtime have not stopped the proliferation of $100k+ ticket collectors (who may oe may not be sleeping on the job).
Back to the topic: Now that it has emerged, I doubt this "TTC Sucks" meme is going anywhere soon, so Giambrone's timing is unfortunate. Unless he wises up and drops out, he'll soon find himself riding a tide a voter anger to (much deserved) oblivion.
What month is it and when is the election? Everyone has lots of time to put forward policies.And he needs some damn policy positions.
What month is it and when is the election? Everyone has lots of time to put forward policies.
Toronto - 2,493,000 riders - 11,300 staff - 221 riders per employee
The ridership numbers are all from the the APTA daily rider stats and should be an accurate comparison of systems. The employee numbers are from the agencies' Wikipedia pages.
If the TTC is getting worse, why is ridership growing?
With the biggest complaint about TTC of late is customer service, your using Air Canada as an example about how to improve TTC?Nobody thought it was a good idea for the federal government to mismanage the national air carrier. Why would anybody think its a good idea for the TTC to be so tightly controlled by politicians? They could use a bit more independence. It'll force them to grow up.
Most advocates seem to attack TTC frequently.Well, you've just admitted my point, which is that the TTC's service is poor. And it won't get better until transit advocates stop being apologists for the status quo.
Rising gas prices probably have more to do with it.
http://apta.com/resources/reportsandpublications/Documents/fuel_survey_0809.pdf
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/09/us/09transit.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/02/AR2008060201545.html
The increase in TTC ridership is not impressive compared to many other public transit systems.