New poll says most Canadians blame U.S. for 9/11 attacks

[ganjavih]

New poll says most Canadians blame U.S. for 9/11 attacks

Last Updated: Thursday, September 7, 2006 | 10:45 AM ET
CBC News

A majority of Canadians believe U.S. foreign policy was one of the root causes that led to the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, and Quebecers are quicker to criticize the U.S. administration for its international actions than other Canadians, a recent poll suggests.

Those conclusions are found in a newly released poll conducted by Léger Marketing for the Association for Canadian Studies.

The poll suggests that 77 per cent of Quebecers polled primarily blame American foreign policy for the Sept. 11 attacks. The results suggest 57 per cent in Ontario hold a similar view.

When participants were given the option of choosing more than one cause for the attacks, two-thirds blamed Islamic fundamentalists and their anti-Western views, while a third pointed the finger at Israel and its position in the Middle East.

Canadian opinions have hardened against the United States and its role on the world stage, said Jack Jedwab, executive director of the Association for Canadian Studies. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have contributed to a change of heart among people, he said.

But Canadians are divided on whether their government should pay more attention to issues fuelling extremist organizations in the Middle East, he said.

"There are a lot of people who think we should be listening closely [to extremist groups] and that there is an opportunity to dialogue with these sort of groups," said Jedwab Wednesday. "So it is showing a real ideological divide on some of these issues."

There's a growing need since the Sept. 11 attacks for balanced public education about terrorism, added Jedwab. "There is a tendency to see in these movements something more romantic than actually exists. That's something we need to keep debating in the country."

Léger Marketing interviewed 1,508 Canadian adults from Aug. 22 to Aug. 27. The poll results are considered accurate within 2.5 percentage points 19 times out of 20.

 

[roch5220]

Too many people watching 'loose change'.
If you havn't seen it yet, google video it.
Its a pretty eye opening 80 minutes, the stuff that hasn't been debunked yet.

 

[billonlogan]

Who was president of the US for eight years during which al Qaeda grew and became more violent as a result of the the horrors of US foreign policy? Who was president when the plotting for 9/11 developed? Thus whose foreign policy was responsible for 9/11 (Mr Bush had been president for less than eight months when the attacks took place) if not Mr Clinton?

What do you think the poll results would be in Canada if people were asked: "Do you think President Clinton was responsible for the events [to be politically correct] of 9/11?"

How feeble are both Canadians' memory of recent history and their logic.

Is this the true Canadian identity? Rampant anti-Americanism to make ourselves feel better that we are not Americans?

"There is a tendency to see in these movements something more romantic than actually exists.

Wake up!

 

[roch5220]

I think if you polled fox news viewers, the majority would think Canada was responsible.

 

[toforumer]

Actually the theories presenting in "Loose Change" have been debunked by the experts who work for Popular Mechanics magazines. There was even a cover story about this whole issue published sometime ago. They were talking about this whole conspiracy on the CBC last night. They had some special. They had the guy who made "Loose Change" on the program and he said what he had to say about the events. Then they had a guy representing the "9/11 Commission" and the an outsider which was the engineer from the "Popular Mechanics" magazine who wrote the article putting down those conspiracy theories. It was actually quite interesting. They'll probably replay it on CBC or CBC Newsworld today. Check it out if you can.

 

[bizorky]

Me, I blame the people who carried out the terrorist attacks for those terrorist attacks. I don't like things about American foreign policy, but I wouldn't slam a plane into a building and kill three-thousand innocent people because of my dislikes. The idea that there is some justifiable link between dislike of policy and mass murder is irrational.

 

[toforumer]

I competely agree. These terrorists are just irrational brainwashed people.

 

[roch5220]

Actually the theories presenting in "Loose Change" have been debunked by the experts who work for Popular Mechanics magazines

Some of the items have been debunked - like the issue surronding the melting points of the materials at the WTC, etc., but a lot still hasn't been debunked yet. You can see the items that have been debunked on the internet.

Even though there are interesting questions concerning the freefall of the WTC towers, I am more interested in the philly plane site as well as the impact of the plane at the pentagon.

 

[Jarrek]

Who was president when the plotting for 9/11 developed? Thus whose foreign policy was responsible for 9/11 (Mr Bush had been president for less than eight months when the attacks took place) if not Mr Clinton?

I think US foreign policy on the Middle East was pretty much the same when Clinton or Bush was(is) in power.

So that quote is pretty much hogwash.

 

[ganjavih]

People often confuse the concepts of responsibility and justification, as evidenced in this thread. A man who abuses his wife who ends up being killed by her is responsible for his own death as far as I'm concerned, even though the act of killing him may not be justifiable. I'm sure many of those Canadians surveyed who hold the US partially responsible for 9/11 would not agree that the terrorist act is justifiable.

 

[bizorky]

Yes, a particular woman who kills her husband on the basis of years of abuse may have a justifiction for her actions (these things have to be judged case by case, of course). These are, however, her actions. She is still responsible for her husband's death.

I think that no one would consider it reasonable for some group of women to choose to kill men randomly on the basis of the fact that spousal abuse continues to exist in the world.

Injustices exist in the world. Targeting and killing people at random or for symbolic purposes does nothing to curtail those injustices.

 

[billonlogan]

CNN Poll: More Americans blame Bush for 9/11

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The percentage of Americans who blame the Bush administration for the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington has risen from almost a third to almost half over the past four years, a CNN poll released Monday found.

Asked whether they blame the Bush administration for the attacks, 45 percent said either a "great deal" or a "moderate amount," up from 32 percent in a June 2002 CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll.

But the Clinton administration did not get off lightly either. The latest poll, conducted by Opinion Research Corporation for CNN, found that 41 percent of respondents blamed his administration a "great deal" or a "moderate amount" for the attacks.

That's only slightly less than the 45 percent who blamed his administration in a poll carried out less than a week after the attacks.

Still, most Americans appear to be fatalistic, with more than half -- 57 percent -- saying they think that terrorists will "always find a way to launch attacks no matter what the U.S. government does."

The poll was carried out August 30 through September 2 by Opinion Research Corp. with 1,004 American adults questioned by telephone. The sampling error for the questions was 3 percentage points.

 

[cdl42]

Damn! That's a whole lotta anti-American Americans!

 

[Antiloop33rpm]

^Yes. But there are still more than enough jingoistic Americans to keep electing Neo-conservative governments and contuining the steady flow of propoghanda and nonsense policy.

 

[wonderboy905]

Actually the theories presenting in "Loose Change" have been debunked by the experts who work for Popular Mechanics magazines. There was even a cover story about this whole issue published sometime ago. They were talking about this whole conspiracy on the CBC last night. They had some special. They had the guy who made "Loose Change" on the program and he said what he had to say about the events. Then they had a guy representing the "9/11 Commission" and the an outsider which was the engineer from the "Popular Mechanics" magazine who wrote the article putting down those conspiracy theories. It was actually quite interesting. They'll probably replay it on CBC or CBC Newsworld today. Check it out if you can.

Umm... I've tried to stay out of this thread but the Popular Mechanics peice was absolute garbage. Their debunking article has been debunked itself a thousand times over by respected (and many fringe sources.. it goes with the territory). A quick google search will reveal almost no one supporting Popular Mechanics ridiculous claims.

This quote perhaps sums things up the best:

More important, it misrepresents skeptics' views by implying that the skeptics' community is an undifferentiated "army" that wholly embraces the article's sixteen "poisonous claims," which it asserts are "at the root of virtually every 9/11 alternative scenario." In fact much of the 9/11 truth community has been working to expose many of these claims as disinformation.

911research.wtc7.net/essays/pm/