Mtl/TDot Food Fight

[urbandreamer]

when is mtl's "madonna" pizza coming to ontario? Panago? i wasn't impressed with it out in van (granted i never ate but a few slices there) and actually i missed pizza pizza (wasn't in bc yet or at least where i lived.) Yeah in fact mtl and vancouver bizarrely enough have a similar pizza "scene." ie dominated by $1 pizza slices that taste like cardboard and usually end up in the garbage.

 

[ganjavih]

$1 pizza slices that taste like cardboard and usually end up in the garbage.

So then why would you want it to come to Toronto? Montreal can't be beat for food and there are plenty of Montreal eateries I'd love to see in Toronto. But the 99 cent pizza places? Steer clear of those.

 

[Pep'rJack]

"Montreal can't be beat for food"

Nearly overwhelming urge to once again dispute this amazingly hard-to-kill anachronism...

 

[RJR123]

"Montreal can't be beat for food"

Nearly overwhelming urge to once again dispute this amazingly hard-to-kill anachronism...

LOL...I was thinking the same thing as well. I travel to Montreal at least twice per month for work and confirm that Toronto is on par, to say the least. But let's not digress from the subject!

 

[ganjavih]

Nearly overwhelming urge to once again dispute this amazingly hard-to-kill anachronism...

I wasn't sure about this either until I moved to Montreal. Now I'm convinced.

 

[Pep'rJack]

^ Having lived in Montreal myself for a few years - and also having heard your dubious evaluations of various TO restos in the past and having acted on a few of your culinary recommendations and then quietly keeping my own reactions to myself in order to be polite - I'm equally convinced that the sophistication, discrimination and experience of your palette is simply not up to the task of passing judgement on this subject with much validity. Yeah, yeah, it's all ultimately subjective - but some opinions are worth more than others re certain things. Btw, I am most certainly far from alone in taking this position wrt contemporary TO/Mtl, amongst people who have a good idea of what they're talking about. And it's been entirely evident for quite a while that you wear apparently permanently affixed rose-coloured shades when it comes to trying to see/taste Mtl for what it actually is/isn't. Really, it is not even close in 2007: TO blows Mtl off the map in eats, hands down.

 

[ganjavih]

Yeah, yeah, it's all ultimately subjective...

Yeah, that's basically it. So there's no need to launch into a diatribe. I would never claim that a 'sophisticated pallet' (whatever that means) is required to enjoy a good deli, burger joint, BBQ chicken place, Lebanese resto or patisserie.

And it's been entirely evident for quite a while that you wear apparently permanently affixed rose-coloured shades when it comes to trying to see/taste Mtl for what it actually is/isn't.

Then you clearly haven't been reading a lot of my recent posts re: my new backwards home. There's a lot that has disappointed me about Quebec and Montreal but the food scene has impressed the heck out of me. Feel free to disagree.

 

[Anth]

^ Having lived in Montreal myself for a few years - and also having heard your dubious evaluations of various TO restos in the past and having acted on a few of your culinary recommendations and then quietly keeping my own reactions to myself in order to be polite - I'm equally convinced that the sophistication, discrimination and experience of your palette is simply not up to the task of passing judgement on this subject with much validity. Yeah, yeah, it's all ultimately subjective - but some opinions are worth more than others re certain things. Btw, I am most certainly far from alone in taking this position wrt contemporary TO/Mtl, amongst people who have a good idea of what they're talking about. And it's been entirely evident for quite a while that you wear apparently permanently affixed rose-coloured shades when it comes to trying to see/taste Mtl for what it actually is/isn't. Really, it is not even close in 2007: TO blows Mtl off the map in eats, hands down.

Good Lord, how anyone can still have an appetite after this post I'll never know.

 

[adma]

 

[billonlogan]

Smoked Meat Pete's in L'ile-Perrot

On my way back home last month I stopped at Smoked Meat Pete's in L'ile-Perrot. Try the smoked meat or the steak, and don't forget the coleslaw and fries. I try to avoid fries, but these were truly awesome, as advertised.

 

[unimaginative2]

"TO blows Mtl off the map in eats, hands down."

I know you've been bitten quite severely by the civic-boosterism bug, but this is patently absurd. You can make a case that they're on par, with Montreal excelling in certain realms and Toronto in others (primarily Asian food), but nobody, including those with quite sophisticated palettes, would say that Toronto blows Montreal away.

 

[interchange42]

And you can't even say that in general Toronto's Asian restos are better than Montreal's either. We have their Chinese scene beat hands down, but Montreal has great Vietnamese in particular. Can't say in regards to comparing the two city's other Asian cuisines, I've had good Thai, Japanese, and if we're including the subcontinent, Indian, in Montreal too...

...point being that there are tons of great places to eat in both burgs! Only a few other places on the continent compare variety-wise with either city, and foodie residents of both are very well catered to.

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[beaconer]

And korean..

 

[Pep'rJack]

Sigh...

I really should have stuck with my original inclination to just STFU and let it go. I've got oodles n' oodles more to say about this, but there are certain arguments that are just 'unwinnable' and pointless, no matter what, and this is evidently one of them, accompanied yet again with the usual entirely predictable and inaccurate accusations, naturally. I'll just have to wait the apparently requisite decade(s?) until consensus hopefully catches up with already transformed reality. Eventually enough Respectable and Legitimate sources will confirm the obvious, and perception will finally be dragged kicking and screaming into the glaring light, but until then, whatever. Conventional wisdoms and cultural 'truisms' truly do die very, very hard.

Apologies for disrupting, honestly - it was not worth it, and clearly won't be any time soon. I'll end with a presumably placating and ball-less platitude: "Ain't it just super-swell that we have so many fine eateries across this absolutely even and eternally unchanging land?"

I give up on this - please disregard and carry on...

 

[Observer Walt]

There really is no way to resolve "city-vs-city" disputes, which is why I tire of seeing them. They are ultimately pointless. Fortunately we haven't had much of this on Urban Toronto (hint, hint).