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Which may lead CDPQi to ditch the airport tunnel.. and just hook up the airport via the pink line through Lachine using a REM type technology, and they might convince Quebec City to do diagonal pink line and do the extension of the blue line as a 2nd branch of the pink line.

p_xavier said:
Here's a map of the new transit line (again REM or LRT will be decided next year by the CDPQi). The white lines are the first phase of the new "pink line" project, the remainder of the pink line will be an extension of the first phase. From gabmtl on mtlurb

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macookie said:
Which may lead CDPQi to ditch the airport tunnel.. and just hook up the airport via the pink line through Lachine using a REM type technology, and they might convince Quebec City to do diagonal pink line and do the extension of the blue line as a 2nd branch of the pink line.
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Too late for that, boring starts this fall, plus it gives access to Technoparc St-Laurent. The two lines might connect at Dorval train station though. If that happens, I can see the Vaudreuil train to be abandonned. VIA needs capacity and it would be a good opportunity.

In other extension rumours: For the REM at station Rive-Sud, seems that the CDPQi already building the wye/loop for the extension to Chambly. Someone working on the project as a construction worker took a picture and it shows the height of the REM bridge is the highest not on the overpass but where the REM extension would be on this map. https://rem.info/sites/default/files/document/REM-briefing-media-juin-2019.pdf

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There are also more rumours that the Bassin-Peel station would be next to New City Gas as a station for the Cité-du-Multimédia (sounds so 90s), Another station would be built where the baseball stadium would be in Pointe-St-Charles.
 
p_xavier said:
In other extension rumours: For the REM at station Rive-Sud, seems that the CDPQi already building the wye/loop for the extension to Chambly. Someone working on the project as a construction worker took a picture and it shows the height of the REM bridge is the highest not on the overpass but where the REM extension would be on this map.
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Seems unlikely they'd do something that isn't necessary currently. Is it possible that they'll be using that for storage, at least in 2021? Where are they planning on storing/maintaining the LRVs for the initial Central to Rive-Sud operation?
 
macookie said:
Which may lead CDPQi to ditch the airport tunnel.. and just hook up the airport via the pink line through Lachine using a REM type technology, and they might convince Quebec City to do diagonal pink line and do the extension of the blue line as a 2nd branch of the pink line.
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Very unlikely CDPQi will change plans now that construction has started on the most segments, with airport tunnel boring to start in the next 2 months, and we are way past the planning phase. Which is actually a good thing considering how much mid-way "design changes" have negatively TO and MTL transit expansion.
 
nfitz said:
Seems unlikely they'd do something that isn't necessary currently. Is it possible that they'll be using that for storage, at least in 2021? Where are they planning on storing/maintaining the LRVs for the initial Central to Rive-Sud operation?
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The main garage for the entire REM is exactly at that site. The updated plans show that loop that was never been there before, it's just weird. It's not a couple of metres either, it's a big section.
 
40 years in the making :
www.lapresse.ca

Le prolongement de la ligne bleue du métro confirmé jeudi

Les gouvernements du Québec et du Canada procéderont jeudi dans le quartier Saint-Michel à la confirmation finale du prolongement de la ligne bleue du métro, dans l’est de la métropole, jusque dans l’arrondissement d’Anjou.
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Final announcement of the blue line expected tomorrow, financing confirmed by the province and federal government. The PM himself will be there for the announcement.
 
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40 years in the making ... Final announcement of the blue line expected tomorrow, financing confirmed by the province and federal government. The PM himself will be there for the announcement.
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"Final". And just over 10 years since the thread originally started with one (of many) earlier announcements.

$4.5 billion for 5 stations and 5.1 kilometres. Almost $900 million a kilometre to open in 2026. A lot more than the $0.8 billion ($150 million a kilometre) that was thrown around by La Presse at the start of this thread!

Perhaps Montreal should look to John Tory to cut costs ... simply cancel the 4 middle stations, and can probably cut the cost to $2.5 billion! :)
 
nfitz said:
"Final". And just over 10 years since the thread originally started with one (of many) earlier announcements.

$4.5 billion for 5 stations and 5.1 kilometres. Almost $900 million a kilometre to open in 2026. A lot more than the $0.8 billion ($150 million a kilometre) that was thrown around by La Presse at the start of this thread!

Perhaps Montreal should look to John Tory to cut costs ... simply cancel the 4 middle stations, and can probably cut the cost to $2.5 billion! :)
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Infrastructure projects costs are now required to include the financing in their costs, which just there amounts nearly a billion now. This wasn't the case a decade ago. Same with expropriations and linked projects (underground garage). Everything must be included in the costs so it adds up quickly. Plus there's a 50% contigency included for the tunnel. Also the costs must include taxes, which wasn't the case for AMT projects. So the most recent cost increase is basically because the politicians "forgot" to put the STM to be tax exempted. A bit ridiculous situation.


journalmetro.com

Coût du prolongement de la ligne bleue vers Anjou: la STM répond aux critiques

Les coûts élevés du prolongement de la ligne bleue vers Anjou s’expliquent par de nouvelles règles comptables et par la complexité du projet, avance la Société de transport de Montréal
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nfitz said:
Seems unlikely they'd do something that isn't necessary currently. Is it possible that they'll be using that for storage, at least in 2021? Where are they planning on storing/maintaining the LRVs for the initial Central to Rive-Sud operation?
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One of the storage / maintenance centres is being built at the intersection of autoroute 10 and autoroute 30. You can see it being built here.

There is another one in Deux-Montagnes. This one is almost completed (picture here). It is more advanced because it was meant to be an Exo train maintenance centre, but they have repurposed it mid-construction as a REM maintenance centre.
 
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Given the complaint from Trudeau recently that they wanted to give money to Ontario municipalities, but since Doug Ford became premier that the province hasn't approved the feds funding any projects ... then Toronto would have likely been getting similar if we had a Premier who wasn't so grossly incompetent.

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Isn't Doug Ford's priority is to discredit Trudeau at every opportunity?

Given that Dougie wants control over GO and TTC rail, only he knows what is best for the GTA. He has not had time to formulate his ideas. But he did get one round trip to Niagara Falls. Mark that as a very important check off on his platform.

Seriously, you need shovel ready plans to get funding. When you keep changing the plans, nothing reaches shovel ready.
 
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