Rainforest
Senior Member
It makes more sense to run mixed-traffic express buses on Sheppard east of Don Mills for the time being. And once there funding becomes available, extend Finch LRT all the way east and create a crosstown route on Finch.
That still doesn't resolve the stubway problem. It will basically only be an "express route" to Fairview Mall.It makes more sense to run mixed-traffic express buses on Sheppard east of Don Mills for the time being. And once there funding becomes available, extend Finch LRT all the way east and create a crosstown route on Finch.
That still doesn't resolve the stubway problem. It will basically only be an "express route" to Fairview Mall.
For Sheppard to attract their attention, first, Yonge should be extended to Steeles, ceasing Finch role as a terminus, then extend Sheppard to Kennedy to intersect popular N-S Scarborough routes (24, 68, 43).The intention of a subway was for people in the nearby corridors like Finch, Steeles and Ellesmere to take a north-south bus to Sheppard. Well, since everyone wants a seat (or the chance to get on) at Finch, the Sheppard subway wouldn't attract their attention. Right now they can run a 4-car TR train along Sheppard every 20-25 minutes and still be able to carry all the 85/190 riders.
That would just increase the ridership on Yonge and leave no room for people coming in from Sheppard. People would more likely consider taking to it Eglinton Line instead. Also, streets like Birchmount and Pharmacy won't get a station.For Sheppard to attract their attention, first, Yonge should be extended to Steeles, ceasing Finch role as a terminus, then extend Sheppard to Kennedy to intersect popular N-S Scarborough routes (24, 68, 43).
IMO, the stubway is not a huge problem that requires an immediate solution. The stubway carries several times more riders than a bus connection could handle, and therefore is somewhat useful. East of Don Mills, the ridership drops quite a bit, thus a combination of local and express bus routes in mixed traffic is capable of handling it.
Meanwhile, Finch East is a very popular route, and once it got Rocket expresses, their ridership exceeded expectations. That kind of implies that attending Finch East before Sheppard is not a bad idea.
In 20 years or so, we can return to the Sheppard issue and either extend or convert the subway based on the ridership projections at that time.
Once Line 1 extension is opened, the Rocket will become obsolete.
Leaving the Sheppard line East alone and not extending it would not be the worst thing, however, the west extension, at least to Downsview should be done. It would make the Finch LRT east of Finch West Station not needed.
No, Finch Rocket will remain in place, it will terminate at the Finch West station instead of going to York U.
I don't like the idea of terminating Finch LRT at Keele permanently. If the riders traveling west to east have to transfer to one subway at Keele, then go to Sheppard, and transfer again, many will avoid that route altogether. I'd much prefer to see a continuous line on Finch.
Eventually, Sheppard should get at continuous line as well, but I am not sure if a subway, mini-subway, or advanced / express LRT is the best option. Time will tell. Therefore, I'm not sure if I would go for an extension to Downsview in the near term. If we have to change the vehicle type and the rail design later, then modifying a longer line will cost more.
If given a choice between a fully-grade separated line 4 with enclosed stations , vs. at-grade ROW line 5 with sheltered stops, why would someone from northern Scarborough choose to take the latter?That would just increase the ridership on Yonge and leave no room for people coming in from Sheppard. People would more likely consider taking to it Eglinton Line instead. Also, streets like Birchmount and Pharmacy won't get a station.
I don't like the idea of terminating Finch LRT at Keele permanently. If the riders traveling west to east have to transfer to one subway at Keele, then go to Sheppard, and transfer again, many will avoid that route altogether.
That's why Sheppard should be interlinked with Vaughan extension.
From Vaughan, go to downtown or Don Mills.
From Finch west, 1 transfer to downtown or Don Mills.
Eventually someone would propose that Finch should end at Finch Station. Finch West Station was never meant to be a terminal. It has side platforms.I don't like the idea of terminating Finch LRT at Keele permanently. If the riders traveling west to east have to transfer to one subway at Keele, then go to Sheppard, and transfer again, many will avoid that route altogether. I'd much prefer to see a continuous line on Finch.