Anth
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too bad about the DRL being in the 25 year plan.
That and the conversion of Milton to express rail, which boggles my mind. Won't Mississaugans just converge on the Lakeshore line then?
too bad about the DRL being in the 25 year plan.
Can someone explain this in a little more detail:
Finch/Sheppard rapid transit from Pearson Airport to Scarborough Centre and Meadowvale
That and the conversion of Milton to express rail, which boggles my mind. Won't Mississaugans just converge on the Lakeshore line then?
The ones who are close enough maybe, but I think the majority going by public transit would just go through Islington, and those with a choice would still drive.That and the conversion of Milton to express rail, which boggles my mind. Won't Mississaugans just converge on the Lakeshore line then?
That and the conversion of Milton to express rail, which boggles my mind. Won't Mississaugans just converge on the Lakeshore line then?
Depends on how long it takes to get it south. Milton will have half hour service even without this plan. It may not be worth the extra travel time to head south.
Hello everyone - Andrae Griffith from the Metrolinx RTP Advisory Committee here...
So, lets talk about transit.
The transit investments can be broken down into a 15-year and a 25-year plan. The 15-year plan includes:
- Express rail (15 minutes or better) on the lakeshore line (end to end) and from Union to Brampton.
I also think that Stouffville has a much more potential for a "express rail" line than Richmond Hill, especially that the latter will be replicating the Yonge subway. Also disappointing is the DRL pushed back, and the lack of a good east-west route north of Eglinton.
It does feel that way. The RTP, in my mind, is the consolidation of all local plans into one package, with the addition of "missing links" between the local plans.The previous Metrolinx plan actually showed us some new ideas - ideas that hadn't been pushed by GO or Mississauga or York or any other municipality. Ideas that actually looked at problems from a region-wide perspective. It was refreshing. But now I look at this report and see nothing new any more... those new ideas have been stripped away, leaving only old ideas that serve "municipal priorities".
Considering the massive convergence of transit services at Richmond Hill Centre (subway, YRT, Viva, 407 Transitway, GO Bus, GO Rail), Express Rail is needed on that corridor. The subway can only handle so many passengers and RHex will be essential to the transit mix on the Yonge corridor. 30-minute service to Stouffville may be sufficient in the short term, considering the other links being provided (i.e. Hwy7 Viva, Markham N-S link), but there's nothing precluding further expansion if ridership increases. The plan is providing a framework to allow for expansion and improvements after the first chunk go through.
I'm deeply dissapointed with this plan. From making Eglinton a massive error (using the mistake from Scarborough) to putting the one major project to alleviate congestion in the city (DRL) so far off into the future that I doubt it'll even get considered, most likely just forgotten like the original DRL was in the network 2011 plan.
Downtown is so congested, especially with roads going east/west that this lack of foresight is offensive to city dwellers. We should make it a priority, not streetcars in Scarborough just because it's a special needs community. Umm, special needs would be addressing the constant congestion, even during Sundays in downtown Toronto.
It seems that the answer to downtown congestion is giving more suburbanites a non-car option to getting downtown?
People living in the city have as much right to transit as do people living in the outer boonies. Currently, only the outer boonies are getting any sort of improved transit. I live 7km from downtown, by streetcar it takes me nearly an hour, by subway (taking the bus up Royal York and then east by subway) is about an hour too.
Why is it taking me an hour to get downtown when this plan will help people living in the outer clusters of civilization get downtown as fast?
I was just suggesting what their answer to congested downtown was....I was not suggesting that people living in the "outer clusters of civilization" deserve anything more than you do.