zang
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Meh, of all Toronto's pizza chains, Pizza Pizza is by far the worst. At its best, it's utilitarian food product, at its worst it's flavourless white bubblegum atop tomato-smeared cardboard.
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Richard White
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I take it you never had 2-4-1 Pizza?
picard102
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Considering the child can't go to school without clothes, this doesn't seem like a very applicable analogy.
But if a child showed up without clothes then yes I'd expect the board to find them clothes for the day.
I'd even be fine with the board being responsible for school uniforms if it were a system wide requirement.
zang
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It's a matter of the fact that children require and burn through more energy per pound of mass than adults. Moods and concentration can shift quickly if a child is unfed and undernourished. Kids don't yet have the ability to power through hunger like adults can. If you've got a kid, you've probably seen this phenomenon in action.
Free school lunches even the playing field between those who can afford to give their kids a proper meal, and those who can't. It shouldn't be means tested or anything kids have to "qualify" or sign up for in any way, as that creates a stigma and quickly identifies those who come from low-income families or sheer poverty. If everyone gets the same meal (dietary restrictions aside), it also removes one less trigger for bullying.
The only way to ensure every kid gets a meal at lunch is at the school level, in the lunch room.
Kids should have an equal chance to learn and grow.
zang
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Not in about 20 years. Are there that many still around? I thought it was decent when I was a teenager, before I developed any kind of a palate.
But then 20 years ago pizza places were having major price wars, with Montreal seemingly at the epicentre. 99 cent (and even later, 49 cent) pizza was a thing.
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The Audit Committee is receiving a Report on PFR at its next meeting. The discrepancy between GPS tracking and paper reporting of 'work time' by Parks Branch staff is striking!
See: https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2024/au/bgrd/backgroundfile-249098.pdf and https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2024/au/bgrd/backgroundfile-249097.pdf and https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2024/au/bgrd/backgroundfile-249099.pdf
See: https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2024/au/bgrd/backgroundfile-249098.pdf and https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2024/au/bgrd/backgroundfile-249097.pdf and https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2024/au/bgrd/backgroundfile-249099.pdf
evandyk
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I worked somewhere where I reviewed the match/discrepancy between work assigned/recorded and GPS records. Very useful tool for monitoring productivity of workers who roam the city for their job.
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I have never seen such asecret agenda item!
Northern Light
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This does not surprise me.
Unfortunately.
Here are some additional notes/highlights from me:
1) The driving time is of particular note. Parks, as with Transportation has been under constant pressure to shutter yards and remote offices, because 'consolidation saves money' and it frees up land that can be sold or otherwise made use of.....
However, what it also does is put work crews ever further from their work sites. Many parks use to have small remote offices, particular the former Metro Parks (Valleys and Waterfront) which were often attached to the washroom buildings.
This generally allowed staff to have access to spades, weed trimmers, regular (hand) lawn mowers and other basic tools and to address washroom maintenance issues in real time. Today, many of these offices are locked up, as remote crews come from centralized locations to do the same work.
Centralization beyond this, such as the carpentry unit for City Parks (repairs benches, among other things), mean that work that used to be done as soon as problem was noticed, now has to be work ordered to a central site, where it can sit in a pile for ages..........before a crew spends upwards of two hours getting to/from more remote parks to do work.
There was poor or no accounting for the costs of additional non-productive time when making the decision to centralize.
2) In addition to noting the lack of GPS on many Parks vehicles.........the Auditor rightly notes that duty logs for staff are still filled out by hand....(as in pen and paper), rather than being done on a tablet/phone or other electronic device.
3) Just wait til someone tells the auditor about the infinite number of keys required by Parks Staff, because they still don't use maglocks or remote-control opening of bollards/gates for Parks Vehicles, for the most park.
Jonny5
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There was a 2-4-1 near me on Parliament Street at Richmond which quickly died during the pandemic, but going past recently it has somehow been resurrected and is back in business again four years later.
The hours are much tighter now though. It used to be open to midnight every day, and past that on Saturdays (not sure how late), but now closes at 8:00 p.m. weekdays and 10:00 on Saturday.
It is definitely not good, but as you said has utility in that it's the only place in quick distance that offers ready-to-eat food. There is a Dominos close by, but they don't offer anything ready-to-eat, you have to place an order and then they make it.
My guess is the owner of the franchise also owns the property, which is a prime redevelopment spot. The pizza franchise was only gravy on the skyrocketing capital valuation.
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Northern Light
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2-4-1 slices are unforgivably awful.
But their scratch made product, when you get fresh garlic and chili flakes added to the sauce is not so bad. Its a leap better than either Pizza Pizza or Pizza Nova (who don't offer fresh garlic as an option).
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What an odd tangent for this thead...........
Richard White
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Is 3-4-1 still around?
Towered
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On Bloor near Brock - though I can't say for sure if it's a 3-4-1 or a 2-4-1...
evandyk
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Their website says only Mississauga and Oakville.
Northern Light
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Interesting move at Council...............
A very large contract extension for GFL was referred back to the November meeting of the General Government Ctte.
Only Holiday and Burnside voted against.
A very large contract extension for GFL was referred back to the November meeting of the General Government Ctte.
Only Holiday and Burnside voted against.