Mayor John Tory's Toronto

[DonValleyRainbow]

There are way too many stations on the Sheppard East LRT.

Agreed. This is what gives ammo to Ford Nation, LRTs that go too slow because they stop too often like a streetcar.

 

[JGHali]

Nonsense. Stop spacing on Sheppard will be comparable to the subway in the core. You can't make it really wide because you are replacing local bus service wih the LRT.

 

[DarnDirtyApe]

Um...wow.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...-province-to-plug-86-million-budget-hole.html

So much for Tory and Wynne being new BFFs! The provincial Liberals talk a good game when it comes to the social safety net, but when it comes down to it they are happy to abandon responsibility for social housing and all the other things that the Harris government downloaded.

 

[JWBF]

Nonsense. Stop spacing on Sheppard will be comparable to the subway in the core. You can't make it really wide because you are replacing local bus service wih the LRT.

Exactly. FN chant the St. Clair street car mantra when discussing anything but subways. Try to explain the differences between "street cars", "ROWs" and "LRTs", and especially in Robbie's case, their alignment or grade.

 

[Videodrome]

http://www.thestar.com/news/city_ha...-returns-with-john-tory-at-torontos-helm.html

All of the people whining about Tory should read this...

 

[Electrify]

Nonsense. Stop spacing on Sheppard will be comparable to the subway in the core. You can't make it really wide because you are replacing local bus service wih the LRT.

But we aren't in the core, are we? Sadly, having accompanying local service is a cost of suburban sprawl.

 

[Electrify]

Agreed. This is what gives ammo to Ford Nation, LRTs that go too slow because they stop too often like a streetcar.

If only we could make LRTs with fewer stops. Sadly, this is impossible. It's not as if other cities have built LRTs with wider stops...

 

[adma]

There was a poll that showed Chow would win an election if ran as well.

Actually, IIRC the 2010 Miller-in-the-lead poll was *late* in the election, i.e. in that closing 3-month period when Ford was flying high; that is, had Miller run again, he would have bested frontrunner Ford.

By comparison, at an equivalent moment in 2014, Chow was already 3rd and fading.

 

[picard102]

Actually, IIRC the 2010 Miller-in-the-lead poll was *late* in the election, i.e. in that closing 3-month period when Ford was flying high; that is, had Miller run again, he would have bested frontrunner Ford.

By comparison, at an equivalent moment in 2014, Chow was already 3rd and fading.

He was still a hypothetical contender. He was not able to even enter the race at that point then. He was an idea in peoples minds, not a candidate with a platform engaged in debates with other candidates.

 

[freshcutgrass]

He was still a hypothetical contender. He was not able to even enter the race at that point then. He was an idea in peoples minds, not a candidate with a platform engaged in debates with other candidates.

That's not the point...you claimed that Miller was highly unpopular and was not as good at budgeting as Ford, when the evidence suggests otherwise.

It's so sad to still see anti-Miller Ford apologists this late in the game. The only good thing that could be gleaned from the Ford experiment, is that we learned a few lessons the hard way. Seems we didn't even manage that.

 

[11th]

If only we could make LRTs with fewer stops. Sadly, this is impossible. It's not as if other cities have built LRTs with wider stops...

Can't please both worlds - it's either better local service (more stops), or fast crosstown service (less stops). When it's done in-between, a-la current planned setup, you get the worse of both.

 

[Greg Banks]

So much for Tory and Wynne being new BFFs! The provincial Liberals talk a good game when it comes to the social safety net, but when it comes down to it they are happy to abandon responsibility for social housing and all the other things that the Harris government downloaded.

Yes, yes Toronto is so hard done by the province that it receives 460M for uploads whereas the Rest of Ontario will receive 515M in 2015....Lets see Toronto pop 2.8M the rest of the province 10.7M, that is what about 4X the upload by per capita than ROO...What exactly is Toronto's fair share, all of it?
And don't get started on the GTA thing...Toronto syphoned off 3B+ from the Regions 1998-2012 for "Toronto Pooling"

 

[picard102]

That's not the point...you claimed that Miller was highly unpopular and was not as good at budgeting as Ford, when the evidence suggests otherwise.

Please point out where I said that.

It's so sad to still see anti-Miller Ford apologists this late in the game.

It's nice that you can wrap people up into nice little boxes to cope with life. But one doesn't necessarily equal the other.

 

[freshcutgrass]

Lets see Toronto pop 2.8M the rest of the province 10.7M

Calculate again...only this time factor in actual tax dollars collected from Toronto vs ROO, then factor in what percentage of social housing Toronto has to accommodate vs ROO.

We should get all of it, but we are still happy to share with the rest of the ingrates in ROO.

 

[freshcutgrass]

Please point out where I said that.

It was junctionist who originally said those things, but you seem to be defending it, so I assume you agree with it.

Again...not really the point. The point is these ideas seem to contradict the evidence.