picard102
Senior Member
Drama had less to do with the homeless and more to do with protestors.
Rather dramatic scenes yesterday clearing out the homeless camp by Lamport stadium...
"Squatter" is a legally definable term that is completely inapplicable to a public park. They have as much right to be there as anyone else.Looks like his knee is on his head, not his neck.
Maybe the media should stop trying to whip up a riot over clearing squatters out of public parks.
"Squatter" is a legally definable term that is completely inapplicable to a public park. They have as much right to be there as anyone else.
Which?unlawful procedures
Actually, they can stay there all they want. The reasoning used to dismantle these camps is one of health and safety, not their right to be there.They do not have the right to set up their home there. Full stop.
Knee on neck. You can split hairs all you want, but the ear sits at the top of the neck, and the constable who used it has been trained to use other techniques.Which?
Section 608-13 Camping and lodgingActually, they can stay there all they want. The reasoning used to dismantle these camps is one of health and safety, not their right to be there.
It's not splitting hairs, it's a fact. The ear is not the neck. Which law are you citing?Knee on neck. You can split hairs all you want, but the ear sits at the top of the neck, and the constable who used it has been trained to use other techniques.
The techniques police use in restraining a subject must be approved by law. Therefore, unapproved techniques (knee on head OR neck) are unlawful.
And it’s a 311 call, not a 911 call you make if someone is camping. It’s bylaw enforcement, not criminal. You get a fine, not a beating from a cop.Section 608-13 Camping and lodging
Unless authorized by permit, no person shall dwell, camp or lodge in a park.
Section 608-14 Tents and structures
Unless authorized by permit, no person shall place, install, attach or erect a temporary or permanent tent, structure or shelter at, in or to a park
I invite you to ask someone to kindly pin you face down with their weighted knee on your ear and see how much it’s splitting hairs.It's not splitting hairs, it's a fact. The ear is not the neck.
Which law are you citing?
And it’s a 311 call, not a 911 call you make if someone is camping. It’s bylaw enforcement, not criminal. You get a fine, not a beating from a cop.
I invite you to ask someone to kindly pin you face down with their weighted knee on your ear and see how much it’s splitting hairs.
I think that's what they do now - it is only after the Streets to Homes staff are unable to persuade people to move that 'eviction' and enforcement of the Trespass to Property Act becomes 'necessary'.I have a suggestion: The next time the city orders that encampments on public property be removed, don't send the police; send staff from the Streets To Homes department. The only stipulation is the task be completed by end of day. Let's see how that goes.
I get that; I'm just suggesting, more as a thought experiment, to leave the entire process, end-to-end, in the hands of city hall staffers. Apparently some believe that there is some secret sauce to get people to do what they defiantly don't want to. I'm not arguing individual allegations in recent events - I haven't followed - or other social issues surrounding homelessness.I think that's what they do now - it is only after the Streets to Homes staff are unable to persuade people to move that 'eviction' and enforcement of the Trespass to Property Act becomes 'necessary'.
From the videos it looks like the only people beaten were agitators and not the homeless.And it’s a 311 call, not a 911 call you make if someone is camping. It’s bylaw enforcement, not criminal. You get a fine, not a beating from a cop.
The difference between my neck and my ear are pretty apparent.I invite you to ask someone to kindly pin you face down with their weighted knee on your ear and see how much it’s splitting hairs.