blixtex
Active Member
Suburbs (includes North York. Scarborough and Etobicoke) outweigh the ol york boroughs commonly associated with downtown interests. That's the point.
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Mayor John Tory's Toronto
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Suburbs (includes North York. Scarborough and Etobicoke) outweigh the ol york boroughs commonly associated with downtown interests. That's the point.
blixtex
Active Member
If she had focused on planning outside of Toronto, that would have made her more acceptable. Even if it was a goodwill gesture type thing. But nope. Total 100% snobbery.
animatronic
Senior Member
I like how you imply that NYSE aren't part of Toronto and then call Keesmaat a snob for favouring the inner core.
torontologist
Active Member
Not that she had the ability to call any shots as a bureaucrat, but I think city planning's support of the Scarborough subway extension under her watch says otherwise. Tory is the epitome of "elite" (and actually lives downtown), so in a head to head match, I'm not sure that she's going to be sunk for that.
zang
Senior Member
If she'd focused on planning [outside of the purview of her job in the TORONTO planning department], that would have made her more acceptable?
She was not beholden to GTA suburbs. Her job was to plan for the city, not areas outside of municipal taxation. Want GTA-level planning? Talk to the province. Unfortunately, we've spent too much time, energy and resources on making sure Joe-the-Georgetown-taxpayer gets the most out of Toronto, meanwhile areas of large growth get ignored until it's impossible to ignore them any more. Why the hell do we have TTC subway stops in Vaughan again, and not just a GO Transit system with better service and range?
ADRM
Senior Member
That is flat out false.
salsa
Senior Member
The "outside of Toronto" remark was probably is referring to outside the old city. Even so, the argument that she was "focused" on that part of the city and somehow ignoring the rest, is pretty insufficient without some evidence to back it up.
Towered
Superstar
Hmmm, that must be why all of the major transit projects currently under way are in the suburbs, not downtown where they're actually needed.
Videodrome
Senior Member
pman
Senior Member
With DoFo running for the provincial PC leadership, Tory is obviously less concerned about a suburban challenger and more focused on his vulnerability to a competent, urbanist candidate. He’s been supporting little, so-typically-Toronto-timid progressive initiatives like the Bloor bike lanes and the lame-ass King pilot, and this latest news falls in the same category. Of course the billions will go to suburb-friendly insanities like East Gardiner and SSE, so we know where Tory’s heart lies. But on the plus side we won’t actually be permitted to have an accurate costing on the latter before the election. And the no-no tax increase pledge dovetails nicely with the inevitable SSE fiscal disaster.
picard102
Senior Member
He's the Mayor of the whole city. Not just the "urbanist".
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Meh, by all means elect him. We shall see how much he enjoys his job with a slate of more competent and aggressive councillors. He might come to regret it.
AoD
animatronic
Senior Member
Wish I shared your faith in council renewal
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
A minor shift in the balance of power is sufficient. At the very least, it makes him work for horse-trading.
AoD
Videodrome
Senior Member
I am not looking forward to the obscene number of debates, even though the election period has been shortened. There should only be a dozen or so of them, if even that.