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Harper chosen: Conservatives poised for drop in polls--Star

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Moderates who told pollsters they would back the new party are now waking to the reality of the right-wing agenda


LINDA MCQUAIG

Over the weekend, the new Conservative party lost its most attractive feature — the fact that it was leaderless.

In recent weeks, as the Conservative party apparently attracted the support of many Canadians keen to punish the scandal-ridden Liberals, pundits have marvelled at how well the new party has done "even without a leader or a platform."

This suggested that the lack of a leader and a platform were drawbacks, rather than, in this case, the party's hardest assets.

Since the controversial marriage of the Progressive Conservatives and the Canadian Alliance last fall, the merged creation — the Conservative Party of Canada — has been able to present a rudderless, baggageless image.

Before the merger, the Alliance, with its overtones of U.S. hard-right Republicanism, had provoked something akin to revulsion among voters in Ontario and Quebec.

But here was something new and unformed. Canadians could impose on this shapeless mass of putty whatever wild fantasies they had of a dream political party. It could embody the national vision of a John A. Macdonald, the fiery populism of a John Diefenbaker and the gravitas of an Abe Lincoln.

Of course the potential for national vision, fiery populism or gravitas dimmed considerably when the deadline passed and the only candidates who'd tossed their hats into the ring were ... Stephen Harper, Tony Clement and Belinda Stronach.

Still, there was an air of possibility, of fresh prospect. Perhaps out of this process would emerge a curious hybrid, a mutant strain that was somehow resistant to the more extreme right-wing ideas that seemed to afflict so many in the Alliance's huge western rump.

Certainly, the leadership race provided an entertaining sideshow that diverted attention from what the party might actually stand for.

Instead, attention focused on the glitzy, glamorous Belinda phenomenon; for the first time, a Canadian political figure made the cover of an American supermarket tabloid.

Oddly, controversy flared around Stronach's lack of political experience — even though the public would clearly be delighted to consider a political neophyte who had truly excelled in some other arena.

Oh, yes, I know Stronach ran Magna. Except that, by all accounts, she didn't really.

I don't mean to discriminate against those who inherit billion-dollar empires. But if they run for public office, surely there will be questions about their ability to relate to ordinary folk.

It might have been more impressive if Stronach had worked as a clerk in Magna's filing department, or made it in the outside world as a waitress.

With no real accomplishments, Stronach's lack of political experience — even lack of political views — became pretty much the centrepoint of her campaign.

She declined to answer whether she would have supported the U.S. invasion of Iraq, saying she wasn't a military expert. This revealed an astonishing lack of interest in the world.

The one candidate with cabinet experience, former Ontario health minister Tony Clement, seemed to attract little public interest.

But, alas, a political party can't go on forever without a leader or an identity.

Now that Stephen Harper has been chosen, the hard part begins. All those moderate Canadians who happily told pollsters they were supporting the unformed new party are now waking to the realization that they are rallying behind a man who scorned Kyoto, wants to privatize medicare and was keen for us to fight in Iraq.

Once that sinks in, those same moderates might find themselves sniffing around Jack Layton's NDP.

I'll confess that conservatism has never been my cup of tea; I don't like its embrace of inequality. But there's a strain of conservatism (sometimes called Red Toryism) which also includes an emphasis on the common good. In a Red Tory scenario, the rich still run things and enjoy the lion's share of the spoils, but they're expected to pay attention to the well-being of the whole community — to ensure, for instance, that those beneath them in the social order get some education, medical attention and even something to eat.

This might seem like a minimum for a civilized society. But the "new" conservatism associated with Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan actually rejects this focus on the common good, favouring a more survival-of-the-fittest approach.

Regrettably, this new conservatism has become the spirit of our times, inspiring the rollback of our social welfare programs by both Liberal and Conservative governments in Canada. But it has found its clearest expression here in the policies of the Canadian Alliance, Harper's old party.

It looks like the new Conservative party is poised to become the new battering ram for this pernicious ideology. Sadly, the days of the new party being nothing but an amorphous blob seem numbered.
 
Well, you have to consider the source... Toronto Star, the Champaign Socialist reader--'shall we take you Jaguar or my BMW to the protest?'
As James Travers correctly pointed out today on cross-country check up on CBC, Stephen Harper's best quality is that he's not a Liberal.

The Conservatives have a new opportunity in Ontario. For the first time in many voters' lives, their is a brand new question in Ontario politics: Which Liberals do we blame for every raindrop and for every bird that falls from the sky?
For decades, the horrible Tories were tied to the whipping post: Clearly, the evil Murloney and the mean spirited Harris Tories were responsible for everything that ever went wrong.
There are no Tories tied to the whipping post in Ontario any more. Bob Rae and the NDP, too, are long gone. For the first time, only the glorious, fault free Liberals are left to be blamed.

The question is: Who does Ontario turn on , Prime Minister Paul Martin or Ontario premier Dalton McGuinty? There is a palatable anger directed to Martin on Ontario. People have had enough.

As Mr. Travers has pointed out, the Conservatives aren't the Liberals, and further, the Liberals are no longer glorious and fault -free.
 
KPAD - I'm sorry, I meant to reply to your post but I accidently deleted it instead.

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March 21
Now's the time to think big, Mr. Harper

Because it's been expected for so long, there's a risk of underplaying Stephen Harper's impressive victory yesterday as the new leader of a united Conservative Party of Canada.

So let's not make that mistake. This is an historic day for Canadians, whatever their politics. It marks the reunification of the Conservative movement after more than a decade of schism between the old Tory party and its breakaway Reform/United Alternative/Canadian Alliance wing.

Enormous credit goes to Harper for achieving this.

When Harper was elected Alliance leader just two years ago, the conventional wisdom - including our own - was that while he deserved to win, his major failing was his lack of genuine interest in reuniting conservatives.

And that, as a result, the conservative movement in Canada would continue to destroy itself through infighting.

Harper has proven the critics wrong. Thanks mainly to him and the Reform/Alliance camp - helped along by a number of icons and visionaries in the old Tory party - Conservatives are now reunited and, as luck would have it, it's the ruling Liberals who are tearing themselves apart.

Another positive result of this Conservative race is that it did not get sidetracked into the swamp of social conservatism and "what if" questions about gay marriage, homosexuality and abortion.

All three candidates - Harper, Tony Clement and Belinda Stronach - were forthright in their views on such issues, Stronach more liberal than the others.

But all rightly concentrated on the whole range of issues Canadians are concerned about. Clean and ethical government. Growing our economy. Taxes. Improving health care. Restoring our military. Repairing Canada-U.S. relations and fixing our broken immigration and criminal justice systems.

Let's be clear. We support the traditional family and Harper's position that Parliament should take back control of the issue. But let's have the debate and vote on whether to recognize gay marriages - or, more realistically, how to recognize them - and get on with it.

Many other pressing matters need to be addressed now.

With the right united under Harper, voters, for the first time in years, will have a real choice in the next federal election, whenever Paul Martin calls it.

Given that, a word of caution: A recent COMPAS poll showed almost two-thirds of Conservative party members will be content if they hold the Liberals to a minority in the next vote. We respectfully disagree - and not just because that might put the NDP (or even the Bloc Quebecois) in the driver's seat in a minority Parliament.

For the good of the country, Harper's aim - and that of all Conservatives - must be higher. It must be to win a majority government.

Harper and the Conservatives must believe they can win. They must think like a government in waiting and earn respect by offering a viable, sensible national alternative to the Liberals, who have grown tired, stale, spendthrift, politically corrupt and so arrogant they take the public for granted.

To his credit, Harper has accomplished a great deal in a short time.

But his real job of truly uniting Conservatives across Canada and defeating the Liberals starts today.

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Harper's road ahead

National Post

March 22, 2004

By handing Stephen Harper a decisive victory on Saturday, Conservatives made the right choice. Among the three leadership candidates, Mr. Harper was the only one who looked like a potential prime minister.

That said, Mr. Harper still has much to do. First and foremost on his agenda must assembling a campaign team that is capable of seriously challenging Paul Martin's Liberals. For the past decade, Canada's opposition parties -- and especially the former Reform and Canadian Alliance -- have been run by well-intentioned but gaffe-prone amateurs. The most recent reminder of this came only last month, when the new party released a laughably bad series of radio ads attacking Paul Martin.

If Mr. Harper hopes to be taken seriously by the mainstream electorate, he must bring amateur hour to an end. That means reaching out beyond his own inner circle to work with the best and brightest from all three leadership camps -- most notably Ms. Stronach's supporters, who ran a slick campaign despite their candidate's many glaring inadequacies. And much as Conservatives might hate to admit it, it also means modeling their communications and organizational strategies after the Liberals -- who, for all their flaws, consistently run the country's most professional campaigns.

Mr. Harper's next challenge will be to fashion a positive campaign theme that voters can rally around. In recent years, one of our conservative parties' biggest problems has been the pessimistic tenor of their message, which most voters find off-putting. Rather than telling us that Canada is going down the tubes -- a sentiment that, scandals notwithstanding, most of the public doesn't share -- Mr. Harper must show he has a plan to make a great country even better.

In this regard, the Conservatives' early platform, which includes lower taxes, increased defence spending, the end of the federal gun registry, an overhaul of the equalization system and the sharing of gas tax revenues with municipalities, is a good start. But Mr. Harper must shape all of that into a clear, sound-biteable message. And he must stick to it. Liberal scaremongering will be in high gear. And the Conservative leader can;t afford to go off-message as the Alliance did in 2000, when confusion over health care and social issues helped derail its election hopes.

Third, Mr. Harper needs to ensure all of the CPC's divergent interests are able to co-exist peacefully under the same tent -- a goal he alluded to in Saturday's victory speech. Red Tories and social conservatives must be allowed to maintain a strong voice. Especially in the next few weeks, it will be essential for Mr. Harper to massage competing egos in the same way Brian Mulroney did in the 1980s.

Finally, there is the leader himself. It is a safe bet that, no matter how hard he tries, Mr. Harper will never come across as warm and fuzzy. But he can at least try: A forced smile is better than none at all. To his credit, Mr. Harper has visibly improved his people skills, coming off less grim and ill-at-ease than he once did. But it is a lingering challenge for his handlers to humanize him. Most Canadians don't read policy statements: They vote for the people they like.

Adscam and other Liberal scandals have given the Conservatives a real opening in the coming election. But they have also raised the stakes for Mr. Harper: Given the government's newfound vulnerability, Conservatives properly expect their new leader to strike major gains. If he is to satisfy that expectation, Mr. Harper cannot afford to waste time savoring his victory.
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The first person to demonstrate they actually care about the urban agenda will get my vote. Harper's policy paper entitled "A Better Deal -- Addressing the fiscal imbalance in public finances and reviewing urban issues." leaves me wondering if he did any research into what the urban issues are. He pushes homelessness off as a local issue. Intends to give Urban areas money by funding heathcare (huh?). He intends to give 3 to 5 cents gas tax to the provinces -- how exactly is this "A Better Deal" for the urban agenda or why is it in a file called municipalities.pdf.

/www.oneconservativevoice...itiesE.pdf

He brings up the gas tax being used to fund airports, highways, etc. in his Atlantic Canada document as well.
 
If only Harper wasn't a jack ass the new tories could make some noise in the next election
 
Are Be wrote:
Well, you have to consider the source... Toronto Star, the Champaign Socialist reader

But we do consider the source, Are Be. We consider the source every time you post an article from the National Post. We also consider the source when you post from the Star because it supports your own arguments.

:poke:
 
For the record considering the National Post a (C)onservative paper is sort of laughable... It may be socially conservative, but its politically (L)iberal.
 
Liberal support remains stagnant, poll finds

By DREW FAGAN
From Saturday's Globe and Mail

UPDATED AT 1:48 AM EST &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Saturday, Mar. 27, 2004

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Prime Minister Paul Martin's leadership is providing little help for Liberal support still mired in minority-government territory, according to a new poll that suggests that just under half of Canadians would consider voting for the Conservative Party to clean house in Ottawa.

The poll done by Ipsos-Reid for The Globe and Mail and CTV finds that 39 per cent of those interviewed say Mr. Martin would make the best prime minister, as compared to 25 per cent for new Conservative Party Leader Stephen Harper and 14 per cent for NDP Leader Jack Layton.

In each instance, voter leadership preferences essentially equate to party support, which has budged little since the last Ipsos-Reid poll almost three weeks ago.

The Liberal Party's popularity remains unchanged at 38 per cent; the Conservatives have picked up one point at 27 per cent and the NDP has declined two points to 15 per cent.

"The numbers seem to be set in cement right now," said Darrell Bricker, president of Ipsos-Reid. "The Liberals have not moved, but then neither have the Tories."

The most striking aspect of the poll, Mr. Bricker suggested, is that Mr. Martin's own popularity is not well ahead of his party's.

Liberal officials have suggested that although party support has dropped in the midst of the sponsorship scandal, Mr. Martin's willingness to confront the scandal head-on has burnished his own credibility among Canadians.

This was a strong sign, they hoped, that the party's dip would prove temporary.

A Liberal advertising campaign showcasing Mr. Martin is expected to begin running next week, a possible prelude to a spring election.

Little public polling has actually been done, however, on the popularity of party leaders, because the Conservative Party chose its leader only last weekend. "And now we've asked and, lo and behold, [Mr. Martin's support among Canadians] is basically the same as the party," Mr. Bricker said. "In fact, the Prime Minister is not really much further ahead than where Jean Chrétien was."

Days into the 2000 election campaign, Liberal Party support stood at 42 per cent, while Mr. Chrétien was the choice of 36 per cent of voters as prime minister. Mr. Chrétien won a majority government with 41 per cent of the vote.

The poll released yesterday shows the Liberals continuing to lead by wide margins in Ontario and Atlantic Canada. In Ontario, their lead over the Conservatives has increased to 19 percentage points from 16 in the last poll.

Saskatchewan and Manitoba now are seeing a three-way race, with the Liberals marginally ahead but having lost some ground to the Conservatives.

The Liberals remain well behind the Bloc Québécois in Quebec — but the margin has declined to 11 points from 18 points three weeks ago. Bloc support there now stands at 44 per cent, compared to 49 per cent in the last poll.

The biggest change, however, is in British Columbia. Three weeks ago, the Liberals, Conservatives and NDP were in a tight three-way race. Now, the Conservative Party leads handily with 38-per-cent support, followed by the Liberals at 28 per cent and the NDP at 18 per cent. The change may be attributable to the fact that the Conservative Party now has a leader.

There does remain fluidity, Mr. Bricker said, when taking into account other questions in the poll that suggest a closely divided electorate. "It appears that the public is still sorting things out," he said.

For example, 45 per cent of those polled said they would consider voting for the Conservatives — even though the united right-of-centre party may have some policies they don't like — in order to teach the Liberals a lesson. A similar number, 47 per cent, say they will definitely not vote for the Liberal Party under any circumstances.

The poll was conducted from March 23 to 25 and interviewed 1,000 Canadians. The results have a 95-per-cent statistical likelihood of accuracy within a margin of 3.1 percentage points upward or downward.



© 2004 Bell Globemedia Publishing Inc. All Rights Reserved.
 
pw20,

The national post is continually running neoconservative editorials....
 
What? Are you suggesting the National Post supports the Liberal party? Uhh... I think you should read a little more closely there.
 
"Don't believe that National Post crap" - Are Be, UT Chat, March 7, 2004
 

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