Just by the virtue of having one fewer station to maintain I would think it would help. The Oshawa and Thornton stations would likely be the two closest together stations on the system, even though they wouldn't be on the same line.
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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)
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Just by the virtue of having one fewer station to maintain I would think it would help. The Oshawa and Thornton stations would likely be the two closest together stations on the system, even though they wouldn't be on the same line.
robmausser
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This helps but the biggest savings absolutely will be not having to build a huge bridge over the 401. That was the largest expense by far.
KevinT
Active Member
Looking at Google maps it seems to be about a 215 meter radius corner with expropriation of Roadrunners Equipment. That's not nearly as sharp as the UP Express spur, but worse than the Canpa Sub Lakeshore West detour which was pretty slow when I rode it.
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Allandale25
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^ Interesting calculation. How much worse than Canpa is it? Is that the tightest curve on the tracks GO uses/sometimes uses? How does it compare to the Richmond Hill Line curve that meets the Union Station Rail Corridor?
crs1026
Superstar
^Those Canpa Sub trips were constrained by other factors, so I wouldn't compare. The dimensional comparison to the curve at the Don is more apt, and it's a very similar distance, from my inexpert Google measurement. The curve up where the line joins the CP looks like the tightest of all. (But may be easier to ease)
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Allandale25
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One year after weekday GO trains arrived in Niagara - albeit only one morning train out and one evening train in - local officials are optimistic addi...
Jonny5
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Momentum building for further Niagara GO train expansion: Local politicians
One year after weekday GO trains arrived in Niagara - albeit only one morning train out and one evening train in - local officials are optimistic addi...www.stcatharinesstandard.ca
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robmausser
Senior Member
Regardless, its important to remember that Oshawa GO station is right next by to that turn.
So the trains will already be slowing down/just starting to move from that station anyways.
Allandale25
Senior Member
Allandale25
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Well, since it says "(including extensions)" as part of this thread...
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Richard White
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Well, since it says "(including extensions)" as part of this thread...
GO Transit into Northumberland County?
Northumberland County is working on a high level business case, which could help with transportation into the ...
I honestly think that GO transit needs to create regional systems across the province to connect the various parts of the province. Something like a NW Ontario GO transit to connect Thunder Bay, Kenora, Lake Superior, Nippising along with a NE division to connect Ottawa, Kingston and Brockville and a SW division to connect Toronto with London, Waterloo, Guelph, Windsor.
Even a Northern Division would be nice to connect Toronto with Huntsville, Muskoka, Napanee, Etc.
Towered
Superstar
Well, since it says "(including extensions)" as part of this thread...
GO Transit into Northumberland County?
Northumberland County is working on a high level business case, which could help with transportation into the ...
I think it makes sense for GO to extend to Port Hope and Cobourg. Beyond that is probably too far.
Richard White
Senior Member
That is why I suggested divisions. I am not saying have everything connect with Toronto instead have them connect with regional hubs
micheal_can
Senior Member
GO stands for... Government of Ontario.
So, GO transit is literally Government of Ontario Transit. That means that it does not serve only Toronto's needs.
One day, I would like to see ONTC rolled into GO. Then passenger service might get the respect from the province it deserves. And, then GO has a refurbishment shop.
crs1026
Superstar
^By that logic, the White River RDC would be a provincially run train. With its own overheads such as supervision and ticketing? Presto Card, anyone?
There's a lot of economy in letting VIA run things outside the GTA. While we may feel that Ottawa is shirking its mandate, nothing good will come of creating a provincial bureaucracy to duplicate what is established federally.
If VIA does proceed with HFR, we may see the Province become more demanding for some sort of 403b type arrangement. But once a train runs express for more than 40 or so miles from downtown Toronto, it should be VIA's operation, perhaps under contract to Ontario.
- Paul
There's a lot of economy in letting VIA run things outside the GTA. While we may feel that Ottawa is shirking its mandate, nothing good will come of creating a provincial bureaucracy to duplicate what is established federally.
If VIA does proceed with HFR, we may see the Province become more demanding for some sort of 403b type arrangement. But once a train runs express for more than 40 or so miles from downtown Toronto, it should be VIA's operation, perhaps under contract to Ontario.
- Paul