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General cycling issues (Is Toronto bike friendly?)

As an alternative to bug spray, I used Off clips for a while, but still didn't like the idea of having chemicals that close to my body:

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Recently, my brother purchased a pair of bug jackets and pants by Bushline to protect us on our hike through Algonquin Park. Although we must have looked ridiculous, these were fantastic. I'd recommend this over any spray. Normally, I'd wear long sleeves and pants when going into thick bush, but with these, I could comfortably walk with a t-shirt and shorts on without getting bitten once.

http://www.fcsurplus.ca/shopping/products/6855-bushline-bug-blocking-jackets/
 
As an alternative to bug spray, I used Off clips for a while, but still didn't like the idea of having chemicals that close to my body:

Recently, my brother purchased a pair of bug jackets and pants by Bushline to protect us on our hike through Algonquin Park. Although we must have looked ridiculous, these were fantastic. I'd recommend this over any spray. Normally, I'd wear long sleeves and pants when going into thick bush, but with these, I could comfortably walk with a t-shirt and shorts on without getting bitten once.

http://www.fcsurplus.ca/shopping/products/6855-bushline-bug-blocking-jackets/
Most cyclists, myself included, wear shorts and short sleeve T-shirts for cycling, there's not many that don't for good reason. Ironically it's *under* clothing that is more prone to ticks hiding and setting-up-shop. Socks are classic, which is why it is recommended to wear thicker ones turned down so that they mechanically protect the ankles (an area few think to protect, but very vulnerable to damage from rocks and stratches) but then soak the *outside* of the thick sock with insecticide. There's further irony in the chemical vehicle in bug-spray being more insidious than the active ingredient DEET.

The one wearable item I might be willing to try through the bush is a mosquito head net, but carrying a hat and net somehow doesn't appeal to me, I don't wear a helmet either:

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And that would be for Deer and/or Horse Flies, which can be very dangerous as they swarm around the head and the tendency is to swat them while moving leaving just one hand on the bars on rough ground. DEET helps, but it doesn't keep them away. Ticks will not jump on DEET applied to socks and clothing, and lightly on skin in spots where there's no choice but to use it. Ticks are *by far* the greatest insect transmitters of disease.

I've had to get up to 30+ kmh to outrun Deer Flies. You may not feel a tick bite, often not, but Deer Fly bites are unmistakable, and they swarm.
 
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Try the whole body suit that I recommended. You'll not only be protected, but you will also have the added benefit of looking like like some swamp creature/bigfoot from a distance.
 
Try the whole body suit that I recommended. You'll not only be protected, but you will also have the added benefit of looking like like some swamp creature/bigfoot from a distance.
For some odd reason, I think I'll pass. You obviously don't cycle to any great degree.
 
The markings only show in some cases and the 'bullseye' description applies mostly to Lymes, there's ten other major infections, which is why they were listed prior.
Deer tick's and Lyme disease are the only things on my radar. I haven't seen a list - certainly not in any general H&S guidelines.

I assume the others are relatively minor or rare.
 
For some odd reason, I think I'll pass. You obviously don't cycle to any great degree.
I do, but I tend to cycle on paved trails. What's wrong with wearing a netted suit (too much wind resistance; higher chance of catching branches)?
 
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I haven't seen a list - certainly not in any general H&S guidelines.
They were quoted in my earliest post today. I guess I have to post them outside of the quote boxes:
Get to know the ticks and diseases in your community. Are the deer, western black-legged, brown dog, lone star, American dog or Gulf Coast tick living among you?

Click a tick to find out more.

 
I'll post this again as a quote, albeit a different section, it's written by a cycling medical specialist, and aimed at cyclists:
The top three tickborne diseases you will encounter in the U.S., in order of prevalence.
Lyme Disease
Lyme is most common in the northeastern states (roughly Pennsylvania/Maryland, east to the coast and north into Canada), and the upper Midwest (Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Michigan peninsula. Ticks that transmit Lyme disease (LD) are the deer ticks, or Ixodes ticks, most often the nymphs, which are only a few millimeters in size.

A few days to a few weeks after a tick bite, a rash may occur in about 75-80 percent of patients. The rash is often concentric reddish rings alternating with whitish rings, with a pale center, the infamous bulls-eye rash. About half of the cases may also have low-grade fevers (less than100 degrees Fahrenheit), body aches, etc. If untreated, there may be myriad arthritic, neurologic and other systemic complaints.

The key is to diagnose and treat them properly and early. Antibiotics in pill form treat early disease, are well tolerated, inexpensive, and prevent the more severe chronic problems. More advanced disease can be very debilitating, usually requires intravenous antibiotics (read as NO RIDING) for 6-12 weeks, and are very expensive, so get treated early. There is a close cousin to Lyme disease, in the southeastern third of the U.S., called Southeastern Tick Associated Rash Illness (STARI). It is very similar to Lyme, but with less severe consequences, and is transmitted by the Lone Star tick. Treatment is the same.

Ehrlichiosis
Say what? This disease just became recognized as a human disease in 1990, though it has been around much longer. First diagnosed and recognized in Arkansas, it is now present and known throughout the world, and in nearly all states. Many different species and all stages, except the larvae ticks, transmit Ehrlichia.

Symptoms occur within three days to two weeks of a tick bite; symptoms include body aches/sore muscles, back pain, headache (sounds like the after-effects of any great ride), high grade fevers, (usually more than 102 degrees Fahrenheit), and sometimes other symptoms such as abdominal issues.

This disease can get you real sick, real fast. Often, hospital stays are required, sometimes in intensive care. It carries a 3 percent fatality rate, despite proper antibiotics. Do not miss this one. It is also called the “spotless spotted fever”, as in Rocky Mountain spotted fever, as only about 20 percent of people have a rash with Ehrlichiosis. To diagnose this disease, a good history and examination is all that is needed, though labs confirm it. Again, a simple antibiotic pill (the right one only), will treat it, and prevent any further complications.

Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever (RMSF)
Nearly 97 percent of the cases come from east of the Rocky Mountains. The Appalachians account for most of the cases, though there have even been isolated cases in the South Bronx. The wood ticks or dog ticks primarily transmit RMSF. The disease is transmitted in only six hours, so check frequently in areas where this disease is found. Symptoms are present within two days to two weeks of a tick bite, and can get bad very fast. This disease can become fatal in days in some cases, and carries a 3-5 percent fatality rate treated, over 30 percent if untreated.

Symptoms include headache, body aches, and fever, present in 70-90 percent of patients. The rash is a fine, red, sometimes blackened rash, and present in 85-90 percent of people. Many people have severe headaches due to bleeding issues within the brain, cough due to severe lung involvement, and other serious symptoms.

Again, with early diagnosis and treatment, antibiotic pills work just fine. There are a plethora of other tick diseases that you can encounter biking in the U.S., not to mention worldwide. Babesiosis is a malaria-like infection, with cyclical high fevers. Many diseases may be transmitted by the same tick bite.

A viral infection called Colorado Tick Fever, and a bacterial infection called Tick Borne Relapsing Fever (TBRF), can both be easily encountered on a ride in the Rocky Mountains, especially if doing a hut-to-hut type of trip. There are many other spotted fever illnesses found worldwide, often similar to Rocky Mountain spotted fever. There is a virus in Russia, called Russian Spring-Summer Encephalitis, which carries a 50% fatality rate. Luckily, there is a vaccine—if you plan to ride in eastern Europe/Russia, get the vaccine.

Tickborne Disease Prevention
If you don’t mind the use of chemicals, use a permethrin containing product on your clothing/ gear, but don’t get this on your skin. Permethrin kills ticks on contact, and lasts through many washings. Higher containing DEET products can be used on skin, and deter or kill ticks. Shaving your legs like any good roadie will help your tactile response to feel ticks on your minimally stubby/hairy legs, and you can get them off before they attach.

I personally just check myself real well for ticks while stopping to fix a flat, look at a map, or immediately when done with the ride. Change your clothes BEFORE getting into your car for the ride home. Bag your clothes to isolate them. Ticks will live for weeks in a car or house, without a blood meal.

You will wind up with ticks on you at work if you drive to/from the trailhead, then to work on Monday. I destroyed some ticks from my research that had been unfed for more than two years, and were very vigorous and hungry. Look carefully for ticks, and use a mirror, or a good friend/spouse/significant other/riding buddy, whomever, to check the nooks and crannies you can’t quite see or reach. Ticks like highly vascular areas, like your grundle, armpits, scalp, etc., so look really well there. Launder your clothes when you get home.

Dry what you can—a hot clothes dryer kills most (not all) ticks. Another trick is to fumigate the clothes in a bag with a rag soaked in permethrin, before laundering. Check your trail dog (or trail cat) upon returning home. Use Frontline/Advantage/Advantrix or equivalent on your dog if he rides a lot with you. Doing so prevents the female ticks from feeding and dropping off in your yard, leaving thousands of larval ticks behind.

What to do it you have a tick on you
Keep some fine-tipped tweezers in your bike bag. Firmly, though gently, grasp the tick as close as you can to the skin. GENTLY and steadily, retract the tick straight out, in the direction it is attached. It will almost always withdraw, making a clean exit. Clean the area with an alcohol wipe, and place antibiotic ointment on it. Watch for local infection, or a rash or other signs and symptoms at a later date.

Tick bites can get infected, as they don’t clean your skin before they violate your space, so watch for that also. Save the tick in a jar of alcohol for a while in case testing or identification is needed. I slap them in between pieces of clear tape if nothing else. Larvae, or “seed ticks” can be removed with duct tape, or scraping along the skin with a credit card or driver’s license. In most situations, no need to seek medical care unless any signs/symptoms.

What not to do
Whatever you do, skip the old remedies. DO NOT: light a match and touch the tick; use your bare fingers (always use tweezers); cover the tick with fingernail polish, petroleum jelly or any other lube, etc. Doing any of these will highly increase the chance of disease transmission (you will cause the tick to puke into your body—and remember the secretions part above, thus injecting a lot of bacteria into your bloodstream).

If you don’t feel well, and are reading this, you very well may have a tickborne illness. These very often mimic a typical summer cold. Explain to your doctor that you are a mountain biker, and spend a lot of time in the woods riding and building trails. If your doctor doesn’t listen, well, find a new one who does. History is key in making a diagnosis, especially with tickborne diseases.

Find a good general internist, family practice doctor or infectious disease specialist, but don’t seek out a “Lyme disease specialist.”

Disclaimer: Any concerns, see your doctor. I am a doctor and avid biker. Please don’t sue me for disagreeing with me or if you get ticks. I have no control over them, and they are responsible for their own actions, as are you and I. Just remember, TICKS SUCK!

http://dirtragmag.com/ticks-suck/
 
Yeah, I've tried sticking to the law, and the cop immediately goes on the radio for "an un-cooperative suspect". God only knows where that leads...even if I'd have them cold in court.

The last time I was pulled over by a cop I asked if I could ask him some questions about the law and what he was writing the citation for. He said sure, so I pulled up the HTA on my phone and suddenly he didn't want to hear anything more and said he'd arrest me if I continued to be a nuisance! Got the charge thrown out in court after all, because he didn't know the law and the judge thought his charge was bogus.

It really depends on the cop ... this was a guy in a cruiser, not surprisingly. Two days later I encountered two cops on bikes, told them what had happened and they thought the charge was ridiculous too.
 
Bike cops are invariably a different breed than patrol car ones. Horse cops also a different attitude. Bike cops know what it's like to be a cyclist, car cops rarely do, as you'll note with their driving habits, not signalling while gaining the cycle lane to turn, not gaining the lane, but crossing right across it, failing to indicate and look before pulling out and/or opening door, etc.

I think the exercise with bike cops also puts them in a different space. Ask them about going back in a patrol car, most will say "No, I'm cycling all winter". They're the go-to cops for other cyclists.
 
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Bike cops are invariably a different breed than patrol car ones. Horse cops also a different attitude. Bike cops know what it's like to be a cyclist, car cops rarely do, as you'll note with their driving habits, not signally while gaining the cycle lane to turn, not gaining the lane, but crossing right across it, failing to indicate and look before pulling out and/or opening door, etc.

I think the exercise with bike cops also puts them in a different space. Ask them about going back in a patrol car, most will say "No, I'm cycling all winter". They're the go-to cops for other cyclists.

I had a great experience with a sympathetic cop after a cycling accident a few years ago. It was the winter time, but the officers who arrived offered to take my bike to the station for safekeeping while I went to the hospital, the male officer explained that he does cycle duty in the summer. Bike cops -- choosing to be on the streets instead of cooped up in a patrol car -- are, in my opinion, the types of police who get into the job for the right reasons. Too many get into the job for the wrong reasons.
 
Well I checked it out just a few hours ago...lol...and it's a lot more than just the Don flowing through there. There's *pieces* of an orange fence...the other end of the tunnel, nothing. But just out of interest, I figured I'd do a by-pass via the old rail bridge. If they block the culvert underpass with howitzers, tanks and atomic kumquats come next week, you can take the path from the north side *where the fence begins on the west side* (don't try climbing the fence, with a bike, it's foolish) and follow the dirt track around to the rail bridge, which has ties so close it's remarkably easy to roll your bike across as well as step. On the south side, follow the path around to the trail, there's two spots through the chain-link fence to get back on the trail.

To be honest, I checked it out more to see if they'd posted a detour. Absolutely no sign. Inconsiderate bazzztards. Try doing that with the Don Valley Parkway....

I was careful to watch out for poison ivy, ticks, and strangers with bad breath...and in the end, I got stung with nettles. Nettles! Oh the shame....

Ticks, btw...are becoming a very real problem. It's not just Lyme's to worry about, there's a number of serious maladies they carry, and very easy to catch. I may have had an infection last year, albeit my GP did check for Lymes, but came back negative. The test isn't fool-proof, and it says nothing about the other infections.

Spray your socks on the outside with insect repellent. Soak them outside, but don't let it soak through to your skin. Roll the socks a few layers thick over the ankles, both for mechanical and insect protection before spraying. I had a tick buried in my beard at the time, when I shaved, I had a 'mole' that shouldn't have been there. It was what was left buried in my skin when the body was shaved off.

It shouldn't be long before the public bushwhacks a wide swath and flattens-down a passage around the site. This is like the 400-series equivalent of bike paths. I thought I saw alternates posted months ago, but it's still asking quite a lot for people to go so far out of their way. At the intersection of Bayview/Rosedale Valley Rd there's always a hole in the fence just north of the intersection, and there's a hobo pathway that will connect with the Don trail. If you have a kid or pet in tow it probably should be avoided. Although the Belleville sub is abandoned and the Bala sub is pretty quiet (even with the RH GO line and infrequent VIA), the latter is obviously still active. But it'll save making a circuitous Beeline.

Most dangerous thing in the valleys IMO are ants. Or I guess fire ants specifically. You stand in the sandy/silty floodplain for too long and ants-in-the-pants is a distinct possibility. Many aren't used to their bite, and a few too many can easily cause complications.
 

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