Bikes are traffic, so they aren’t invading space when they “take over” a lane.
Bikes are traffic, so they aren’t invading space when they “take over” a lane.
I always find it amusing when the pro-cycle / anti-car crowd gets angry that transit/walking is "invading" their space.
And then they are shocked that the pro-car crowd is angry when a bike lane takes over/"invades" an entire lane of traffic.
The definition of irony?
Legally true but I'm not sure that matches popular opinion.
I've never dismounted to cross the bridge, I just ride across. Are we supposed to dismount?
Well we're being told bikes are vehicles so they must be treated as such (fair), but then bikes have 'special' rules like blowing through red lights and not stopping at stop signs because they're bikes.. God forbid you find yourself in front of one, anywhere.I always find it amusing when the pro-cycle / anti-car crowd gets angry that transit/walking is "invading" their space.
And then they are shocked that the pro-car crowd is angry when a bike lane takes over/"invades" an entire lane of traffic.
The definition of irony?
And we universally pan car drivers who do the above.Please. Plenty of cars blow stop signs and even red lights. Glass houses and all that. That said, whether I'm personally riding or driving, I stop.
I do agree that everyone whether on a bike or in a car needs to stop for TTC passengers embarking/debarking. Again, this isn't just people on bikes. I've been on plenty of streetcars where the horn has been blared at a car driver who ignores the law to stop.
Those who ride do it for more than just the exercise, by the way.
Well we're being told bikes are vehicles so they must be treated as such (fair), but then bikes have 'special' rules like blowing through red lights and not stopping at stop signs because they're bikes.. God forbid you find yourself in front of one, anywhere.
I complained about this earlier, but it's getting pretty amusing now that Adelaide cycle traffic is really peaking. The bikes will. not. stop. for the buses or passengers disembarking. Drivers have given up trying to 'get into' the bike lane to drop off passengers so they let us off into the lane. You think cyclists stop? My driver is basically leaning on his horn from Spadina to Bay (when I get off).
I'm also not interested in the excuse that it takes a lot of energy to get back to moving speeds on a bike (a line of reasoning used to accommodate bikes not respecting the rules of the road) - but quite frankly LOL. You made a choice to exercise so don't complain when you have to stop and start again.
But we don’t. Read any comments section where car drivers diss cyclists for the same behaviour they exhibit while driving multi-ton vehicles.And we universally pan car drivers who do the above.
But we look for excuses when cyclists do it.. See the point I'm making?
There are shitty people on all sides, but I don't think I've ever seen dozens and dozens of cars at once rushing a bus that is in the midst of letting off 20-30 people at Bay. When a car does it, it's one car. When bikes do it it's about the whole gaggle of bikes doing it at once. The chaos is amusing unless you're in it.But we don’t. Read any comments section where car drivers diss cyclists for the same behaviour they exhibit while driving multi-ton vehicles.
I have twice reported TTC buses for running red lights, once almost hitting me while I was crossing the road with a walk signal. Crickets.