lenaitch
Senior Member
They brand it as liberty and personal freedom (life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness). If you can't afford health care, it's your fault. Governments are seen as the problem, not the solution.
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Former President Donald Trump's United States of America
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They brand it as liberty and personal freedom (life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness). If you can't afford health care, it's your fault. Governments are seen as the problem, not the solution.
lenaitch
Senior Member
Another forum pointed me to this article from Foreign Affairs which I though was a good read. It is obviously regarding the US but I think it has international relevance. It's a few years old and a tad long but, hey, many of us currently have the time.
www.foreignaffairs.com
How America Lost Faith in Expertise
In many ways, the populist surge that brought Donald Trump to office represents a rejection of experts and all they represent. Americans today see ignorance as a virtue. Here’s why they’re very, very wrong.
Johnny Au
Senior Member
Benjamin Franklin once said, "There are two things that are inevitable: death and taxes."
Death happens because, without death, there would be a lack of available resources. Taxes happen because services provided by the government aren't actually free.
Richard White
Senior Member
I blame the GOP personally. They are they are more focused on capitalism and building the American brand than they are looking out for Americans.
Universal healthcare is expensive and the money can be spent better elsewhere building bombs and walls.
Northern Light
Superstar
There certainly is in the American psyche a distrust of the state; and a reverence for the individual.
Yet, its worth pointing out their electoral model was also set up the way it was because the founding fathers distrusted individual Americans too!
That said, the U.S. has gone through periods of an expanding state, and trends towards greater social trust.
The FDR to Kennedy period exemplified this in many ways.
This is the era during which the U.S. brought in Social Security (gov't pensions), Medicare (sorta universal health insurance for seniors), Medicaid (some health coverage for the very poor), built vast amounts of public housing (which, sadly, was poorly planned and maintained even worse).... but still. The interstate system, so much more was built during that period.
It was really with the election of Reagan that you saw the explicit change in political climate to one of 'government is the problem'.
Same vintage as Thatcher in the U.K.
That was the beginning of a 4-decade long era of 'smaller government', 'crony capitalism', neglect of infrastructure, and government, starved of financial resources, and bold leadership, that did falter, creating a self-fulfilling prophecy for Neo-liberalism.
It would be nice to think the pendulum might swing the other way.
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Towered
Superstar
All those initiatives you listed would never be possible in today's America.
Northern Light
Superstar
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Well, this won't impress Trump. He doesn't like it when the military leaders speak up.
www.nytimes.com
Captain of Aircraft Carrier Pleads for Help as Virus Cases Increase Onboard (Published 2020)
“We are not at war,” the captain of the carrier Theodore Roosevelt wrote. “Sailors do not need to die. If we do not act now, we are failing to properly take care of our most trusted asset — our sailors.”
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Another forum pointed me to this article from Foreign Affairs which I though was a good read. It is obviously regarding the US but I think it has international relevance. It's a few years old and a tad long but, hey, many of us currently have the time.
How America Lost Faith in Expertise
In many ways, the populist surge that brought Donald Trump to office represents a rejection of experts and all they represent. Americans today see ignorance as a virtue. Here’s why they’re very, very wrong.
Just follow Tom Nichols on Twitter - he is a riot.
AoD
AlbertC
Superstar
Coronavirus: The US governor who saw it coming early
As the coronavirus outbreak barrels throughout the US, states have scrambled to get ahead of its spread, often after weeks of inaction. But one governor imposed sweeping measures days before a single case had been reported in his state.
At the podium for Tuesday's daily coronavirus press briefing, Republican Ohio Governor Mike DeWine provides the latest on the virus's march through his state - 2,199 cases, 55 deaths, 585 hospitalisations.
His announcements are peppered with "thank yous" and mild "just-a-reminders", encouraging continued social distancing. He holds printed notes, shuffling the papers occasionally, staring down at them frequently. He doesn't speak in platitudes, but in detail, taking time to dictate every letter and character in the state's coronavirus web address.
It's a stark contrast from his New York counterpart Andrew Cuomo, whose own daily briefings have become a staple of the US coronavirus news cycle.
But while the lesser known Mr DeWine, 73, may lack the media attention of Mr Cuomo, he is drawing praise for his early moves against the virus, at a time when much of the US was still playing catch up.
On 5 March, after resistance from organisers, Mr DeWine got a court order to shut down much of the Arnold Sports Festival - an annual event featuring 20,000 athletes from 80 countries, around 60,000 spectators each day, and an expected $53m for Columbus, the state's largest city.
The state had yet to report a single case.
www.bbc.com
As the coronavirus outbreak barrels throughout the US, states have scrambled to get ahead of its spread, often after weeks of inaction. But one governor imposed sweeping measures days before a single case had been reported in his state.
At the podium for Tuesday's daily coronavirus press briefing, Republican Ohio Governor Mike DeWine provides the latest on the virus's march through his state - 2,199 cases, 55 deaths, 585 hospitalisations.
His announcements are peppered with "thank yous" and mild "just-a-reminders", encouraging continued social distancing. He holds printed notes, shuffling the papers occasionally, staring down at them frequently. He doesn't speak in platitudes, but in detail, taking time to dictate every letter and character in the state's coronavirus web address.
It's a stark contrast from his New York counterpart Andrew Cuomo, whose own daily briefings have become a staple of the US coronavirus news cycle.
But while the lesser known Mr DeWine, 73, may lack the media attention of Mr Cuomo, he is drawing praise for his early moves against the virus, at a time when much of the US was still playing catch up.
On 5 March, after resistance from organisers, Mr DeWine got a court order to shut down much of the Arnold Sports Festival - an annual event featuring 20,000 athletes from 80 countries, around 60,000 spectators each day, and an expected $53m for Columbus, the state's largest city.
The state had yet to report a single case.
Coronavirus: The US governor who saw it coming early
Ohio's Mike DeWine began preparing for the virus before a single case was reported in his state.
www.bbc.com
They may not have reported a case that early because they weren’t testing. Of course, now that the US is testing, Trump likes to boast how about all the testing that they are doing.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Bound to happen...
CNN Refuses To Air Trump Propaganda At Coronavirus Briefing
From link.
When Donald Trump "speaks", it seems to be gibberish, or retractions, or misquotes, or will be reversed due to fact checking later. No loss if CNN goes to commercial when Donald Trump is speaking.
CNN Refuses To Air Trump Propaganda At Coronavirus Briefing
From link.
When Donald Trump "speaks", it seems to be gibberish, or retractions, or misquotes, or will be reversed due to fact checking later. No loss if CNN goes to commercial when Donald Trump is speaking.
Yes, they ran a bunch of ads while he was speaking. Last night's briefing went on for over two hours. CNN finally cut away when Trump started talking about Jesus past the two hour mark.
old boy
Senior Member
Now there's something he really doesn't know about. Good for CNN and others should follow excepting the entertainment channel of course.
AlbertC
Superstar
Nation's top coronavirus expert Dr. Anthony Fauci forced to beef up security as death threats increase
By Kate Bennett and Evan Perez, CNN
Updated 8:18 AM ET, Thu April 2, 2020
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country's top medical expert on the coronavirus pandemic and a member of President Donald Trump's coronavirus task force, is facing threats to his personal safety and now requires personal security from law enforcement at all times, including at his home, a source confirms to CNN.
A law enforcement official told CNN that the Department of Health and Human Services Inspector General, the agency's law enforcement arm, asked the US Marshals Service for assistance following threats to Fauci. The Marshals then deputized HHS officers to act as personal security for the doctor.
The Washington Post first reported the threats to Fauci and the increased security.
A source also confirmed to CNN last week the presence of several members of the Washington, DC, Metropolitan Police Department stationed at all times around Fauci's home in the district. The source added the stepped up visible police presence was a response to growing threats to Fauci's safety, though the source of the threats was not identified.
www.cnn.com
By Kate Bennett and Evan Perez, CNN
Updated 8:18 AM ET, Thu April 2, 2020
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country's top medical expert on the coronavirus pandemic and a member of President Donald Trump's coronavirus task force, is facing threats to his personal safety and now requires personal security from law enforcement at all times, including at his home, a source confirms to CNN.
A law enforcement official told CNN that the Department of Health and Human Services Inspector General, the agency's law enforcement arm, asked the US Marshals Service for assistance following threats to Fauci. The Marshals then deputized HHS officers to act as personal security for the doctor.
The Washington Post first reported the threats to Fauci and the increased security.
A source also confirmed to CNN last week the presence of several members of the Washington, DC, Metropolitan Police Department stationed at all times around Fauci's home in the district. The source added the stepped up visible police presence was a response to growing threats to Fauci's safety, though the source of the threats was not identified.
Nation's top coronavirus expert Dr. Anthony Fauci forced to beef up security as death threats increase
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country's top medical expert on the coronavirus pandemic and a member of President Donald Trump's coronavirus task force, is facing threats to his personal safety and now requires personal security from law enforcement at all times, including at his home, a source confirms...