Finch West Line 6 LRT

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MSF construction earlier this week

 

[TheTigerMaster]

This would be terrible, having to press a button isn't great for so called rapid transit

Why does it matter?

 

[W. K. Lis]

Why does it matter?

Metro trains in Europe have the little handle or buttons to open the doors rather than just the door opening itself at every station. Especially at stations with long dwell times (like scheduling adjustments or track problems).

From link.

This is normally done to prevent loss of air-conditioning while the train waits at stations, which is particularly a problem when the train is held at a station for some time, due to red signals or timetables (long scheduled dwell time at terminals/major stations). It is important to keep the air-conditioning inside, as when it’s extremely hot or cold, a lot of electricity is wasted trying to maintain a comfortable temperature inside. This is especially true for metro systems, as they have 3/4 pairs of doors on each carriage, meaning the AC escapes faster. I remember reading that here in Sydney, new trains require power system upgrades because their AC and powerful motors draw way too much power for the system to handle.

 

[superelevation]

Why does it matter?

If its consistently a requirement, its inconvenient (there are less buttons than you'd hope in these trains ) and its easy to forget to press it if you are distracted.

If its not consistently a requirement its confusing.

 

[sacred]

If its consistently a requirement, its inconvenient (there are less buttons than you'd hope in these trains ) and its easy to forget to press it if you are distracted.

If its not consistently a requirement its confusing.

Stop buttons are consistently on every bus and streetcar... and the Waterloo LRT... not sure what Eglinton will look like but I don’t think this is hard for people to wrap their heads around

 

[KevinT]

ION has the same thing in Waterloo where the cars do have stop request buttons but they're unused.

Not anymore, the buttons were finally removed a month or three ago. Lol, it was maddening hearing the bing and seeing Stop Request illuminate all the time while knowing that it was completely unnecessary.

They do still have blue request buttons in the accessible areas so that drivers know to pay attention for those who will take longer to appear in the exterior door camera after the vehicle has stopped.

 

[W. K. Lis]

To conserve energy (either in the form of heat or air conditioning), it makes sense to be to keep the doors closed at long dwell time stops. If you want to open the doors to get on or off, press the button. Like they do with elevators, press the elevator button and suddenly the doors open to the elevator cab that was waiting there.

 

[W. K. Lis]

Here in Toronto, we'll need instructional video courses on how to use button to open transit vehicle doors.

 

[W. K. Lis]

Eglinton is planning to require the door or stop request button to be pressed to open the doors, or else they will stay closed (at least in the Winter). The idea is that it saves on heating costs and keeps passengers warmer.

Still needs a video instructional. Seen people who don't know how to use PRESTO tickets...

We should see those PRESTO machines at all the stops.

 

[TransitBart]

It still feels weird but good to see this project moving forward. I've just become used to major transit projects being killed by every successive government.

Let’s get unused to it.

 

[ssiguy2]

Obviously the potential extensions of Finch LRT would be east to Yonge and south to the new Woodbine GO station. Eventually they will be built but the good news is that they can be built much faster and cheaper than the current line. This is due to battery technology. The extensions need not have any catenary or electrical supply to be built as the extensions are so short that battery power will more than be enough to take the train to it's future terminus stations.

This saves a lot in land acquisition, and the overhead catenary infrastructure and the labour to build it.

 

[micheal_can]

Obviously the potential extensions of Finch LRT would be east to Yonge and south to the new Woodbine GO station. Eventually they will be built but the good news is that they can be built much faster and cheaper than the current line. This is due to battery technology. The extensions need not have any catenary or electrical supply to be built as the extensions are so short that battery power will more than be enough to take the train to it's future terminus stations.

This saves a lot in land acquisition, and the overhead catenary infrastructure and the labour to build it.

Battery technology? The LRVs will be battery operated?

 

[superelevation]

Obviously the potential extensions of Finch LRT would be east to Yonge and south to the new Woodbine GO station. Eventually they will be built but the good news is that they can be built much faster and cheaper than the current line. This is due to battery technology. The extensions need not have any catenary or electrical supply to be built as the extensions are so short that battery power will more than be enough to take the train to it's future terminus stations.

This saves a lot in land acquisition, and the overhead catenary infrastructure and the labour to build it.

I think for me its Hydrogen Trams or nothing . . .

 

[sacred]

Is there any context as to why Line 6’s colour is grey? How do we imagine it will be represented on the TTC subway and streetcar map?

 

[APTA-2048]

Is there any context as to why Line 6’s colour is grey? How do we imagine it will be represented on the TTC subway and streetcar map?

Finch used to be pink. I guess the design department thought it looked too similar to the Sheppard subway line.

The Sheppard East LRT was lime green, but later changed to teal (but who knows what’s happening with that) at the same time.