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CapitalSeven
Senior Member
That's a a pretty one-buttocked attempt at TOD. It includes two buildings at the corner but not two more just beside them. And what about the solid block of bungalows across the road? I suppose they'll leave that up to private speculators. Or are bungalows 200 feet from a subway station untouchable elements of a "stable neighborhood" ?
reinventingthewheel
Active Member
This is the only released concept art of the potential design:
The short building to the right is on the south west corner of McCowan and Lawrence. It is the proposed subway and bus station.
The three towers are on the south east corner of McCowan and Lawrence in the following property (with additional labels to be abundantly clear):
I don't understand your gripe. This site is adjacent to a hospital, and a future station for subway and express bus services. It deserves some density. The proposed MTSA (which I've not seen drawn out yet for this station) will likely include everything within a 5 minute walk of the station. Yes, there is a high likelihood private developers will eventually purchase SFH properties and assemble land for new high density developments. This is just the beginning of intensification. There's no reason for the government to go through this process when there is a privately owned lot across the street, which they can repurpose with a lot less upheaval and controversy.
Aplus23
Active Member
So where is the station gonna be, where the old gas station was across the street, or will the station be on the side of the buildings
reinventingthewheel
Active Member
nfitz
Superstar
The map is from https://www.metrolinx.com/en/projec...at-were-building/lawrence-and-mccowan-station
To confuse everyone west is up.
The station box is right at the intersection, centred on McCowan south of Lawrence. The entrances are on the west side of McCowan, both north and south of Lawrence.
CapitalSeven
Senior Member
My gripe is that we need lots more density around the stations for this boondoggle to make any environmental sense. What are they building above the large purple area where the station is? This government wanted to pave chunks of the greenbelt but won't spend any more political capital than to replace a strip mall with apartments.
Coolstar
Senior Member
The applications for the Scarborough Subway stations are up.
Sheppard/McCowan: https://www.toronto.ca/city-governm...=5297639&pid=122162&title=4700-SHEPPARD-AVE-E
Scarborough Centre: https://www.toronto.ca/city-governm...id=5309643&pid=950608&title=140-GRANGEWAY-AVE
Lawrence East: https://www.toronto.ca/city-governm...d=5300666&pid=45445&title=3051-LAWRENCE-AVE-E
Sheppard/McCowan: https://www.toronto.ca/city-governm...=5297639&pid=122162&title=4700-SHEPPARD-AVE-E
Scarborough Centre: https://www.toronto.ca/city-governm...id=5309643&pid=950608&title=140-GRANGEWAY-AVE
Lawrence East: https://www.toronto.ca/city-governm...d=5300666&pid=45445&title=3051-LAWRENCE-AVE-E
lenaitch
Senior Member
Part of that density *may* come from a relocation of services provided by the current Scarborough General.
nfitz
Superstar
One change from past stations is that all the elevators appear to be twinned!
It's good to see knockout panels at Sheppard East station for both future Line 4 and the EELRT on the architectural drawings!
I'm surprised to see that both Scarborough Centre station and Lawrence East station have 2 platforms.
At Lawrence East the platforms are 30.35 metres below grade (south entrance grade). That's deep - what's the deepest station currently on the system? Looks as though it will be one long escalator to the concourse then two more to get out the doors. Though I expect many use a tunnel to the bus terminal.
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mossynukes
Active Member
One of the North York Stations of Lawrence, Don Mills, Bayview, or York Mills.
Coolstar
Senior Member
Judging by the Ontario Line and Eglinton West designs, this will be the standard for future subway stations.
Agreed. I also appreciate the numerous knockout panels there are for future TOC projects. For example, here at Lawrence East.
And at Sheppard-McCowan, you can tell where the TOCs will be built in the future.
Metroscapes
Active Member
Is it not Highway 407?
reinventingthewheel
Active Member
It’s very deep to cross under the West Highlands creek just to the north. Lawrence station on Line 1 is similarly deep as the line gradually descends between Eglinton and the York Mills valley.
Ontario line stations in the south will be even deeper! Osgoode will be 36.48m below grade.
I may be wrong but I think the at grade street level is considered to be the one below the bus terminal so it’s technically a little shallower.
turini2
Active Member
Lawrence East and Scarborough Centre will have 8!
The location of a Sheppard East line 4 station seems a little odd - the only Line 4 connection noted on the drawings indicates a connection to the "Canada Tire Site"
Yes, the single bore means side platforms at both these stations.
(not open yet, but) "Avenue Station reaches a depth of 32 metres (105 feet) underground at its northwest corner—the deepest point of any station in the system."
