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Cycling infrastructure (Separated bike lanes)

Research has consistently shown that business groups tend to overestimate how many of their customers drive. Most businesses on neighbourhood main streets like the Danforth are less reliant on cars than they think.

I haven't been on the Danforth in a while but I'm looking forward to riding the new bike lanes.
 
mjl08 said:
The word is that a lot of the Greektown BIA members are not happy with the bike lanes. Many of the old timers who run the Greek restos are stuffy, conservative types, who are concerned about the long-term impact of bike lanes on group bookings of their restaurants for weddings and events which rely heavily on car parking.

It’s in contrast to the other Danforth BIAs east and west of Greektown which are whole heartedly embracing the lanes.
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They better not go visit Greece with that unhappiness.

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From link. "The Great Walk" A network of walk/bike lanes are going up in Athens, Greece: finished VS under contruction
 
W. K. Lis said:
In Europe, they use motion detectors for pedestrian and cyclist signal light activation. And if they move away, they activation gets cancelled. Some even lengthen or shorten the crossing time for slower elderly or faster runners.
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There are actually a few routes in Toronto where this exists, but Transportation routinely effs with the timing such that they’re rendered nearly useless.
 
MisterF said:
The new bike lanes on Willowdale. They're buffered but have no real protection. Hopefully they get curbs like other buffered bike lanes have been getting.

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We need provincial standards for what constitutes a bike lane. IMO, it should never, ever be denoted only with paint. We don’t use paint to separate pedestrian walk ways from the road space, so neither should we for bicycles. Hard barriers or bollards should be the minimum.
 
Admiral Beez said:
We need provincial standards for what constitutes a bike lane. IMO, it should never, ever be denoted only with paint. We don’t use paint to separate pedestrian walk ways from the road space, so neither should we for bicycles. Hard barriers or bollards should be the minimum.
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It'll depend upon who writes those standards. Will they be written by those who never rode a bicycles all their life, or will they be written by actual bicycle commuters? Would rather have someone who lived in Amsterdam than by someone who lived in Phoenix to write the standards.
 
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W. K. Lis said:
It'll depend upon who writes those standards. Will they be written by those who never rode a bicycles all their life, who will they be written by actual bicycle commuters? Would rather have someone who lived in Amsterdam than by someone who lived in Phoenix to write the standards.
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Our Dutchman/woman will be useless, as in the Netherlands bikes come first. That’s never going to be the case in Toronto, in my life time anyway.
 
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