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In Prince Edward County or in Belleville?
I'm assuming then that the old Murray Canal isn't big enough for a cruise ship? It doesn't look big enough. I imagine the time cost of backtracking through the Bay of Quinte would discourage visits to Belleville even if the Quinte Skyway had the clearance. It's a shame big ships can't just sail through.Downtown Belleville is fine. If it's anything like the cruise ship industry on the East Coast there'll be buses waiting for the passengers to quickly swoop them somewhere where they can spend their money more quickly and touristy. I imagine PEC would be a good landing spot for them.
I haven't sailed this part of the lake but I imagine the time it would take to get into Belleville wouldn't be worth it when the ships can just continue on between Kingston and Cobourg. I'm not even sure Belleville has a wharf large enough to accommodate something like this. Viking Cruises only makes reference to Toronto and Great Lakes Tours makes reference to Prince Edward Island (sic) and Thousand Islands.
Ya, I used to like The County before all of that happened.Belleville. Prince Edward County itself was beautiful and vibrant last summer. All of the towns I visited were full of life like Wellington, Bloomfield, and Picton. There were many trendy independent shops, restaurants, galleries, places to stay, farms, wineries, and craft breweries all around the County. By contrast, downtown Belleville was a ghost town with mainly homeless people walking around.
With a maximum beam clearance of 5' and draught of 9', not very big.I'm assuming then that the old Murray Canal isn't big enough for a cruise ship? It doesn't look big enough. I imagine the time cost of backtracking through the Bay of Quinte would discourage visits to Belleville even if the Quinte Skyway had the clearance. It's a shame big ships can't just sail through.
People literally paying thousands of dollars, do not want to walk around anywhere that they have to look over their shoulder or cross the street to feel safe like I did last summer. Sorry but your "junkies and vagrants are not noticeable" BS might hold for places you vacation, but Belleville will need to do way better. I have never been anyplace (Cartagena, Buenos Aris, Santiago, Montevideo...even Ocho Rios to name a very few) in the world, that would turn tourists off as much as what I saw in downtown Belleville. Nice buildings don't cut it. Oh and I was in San Francisco, which gets a bed wrap these days, in October...I saw very few homeless/junkies compared to Belleville...and that is on a direct number to number basis not percentage.Downtown Belleville has a beautiful built form and public realm. It deserves to be a thriving and vibrant place with busy street patios, especially with PEC's popularity. However, when I went to PEC last summer, it was an unfortunate lowlight of the trip.
On a warm Sunday afternoon, the streets were empty except for the junkies and vagrants. It's true that many towns and cities in North America have that issue. But they're not that noticeable when there are plenty of ordinary people on the streets. In Belleville, they were the only people on the street at the height of tourism season.
Belleville should do better for its own residents and people who live there, not for people visiting with their wallets.People literally paying thousands of dollars, do not want to walk around anywhere that they have to look over their shoulder or cross the street to feel safe like I did last summer. Sorry but your "junkies and vagrants are not noticeable" BS might hold for places you vacation, but Belleville will need to do way better.
You'd have to imagine that Belleville does not hold the same international cache as Buenos Aires and Montevideo.I have never been anyplace (Cartagena, Buenos Aris, Santiago, Montevideo...even Ocho Rios to name a very few) in the world, that would turn tourists off as much as what I saw in downtown Belleville
You'd have to imagine that Belleville does not hold the same international cache as Buenos Aires and Montevideo.
No homeless? Is that because they have favelas/slums instead?Exactly they are massive cities and there is little to no homeless or addicts ...and it's Bellville, where the draw is already next to nothing. (Montevideo is not as great as it sounds BTW...most went elsewhere into the country to see something else...but NO homeless!)
Or perhaps round them up or sweep them from the tourist areas.No homeless? Is that because they have favelas/slums instead?
Well played deflection to nowhere that does nothing for the argument re Belleville as a tourist port...lolNo homeless? Is that because they have favelas/slums instead?
