Wooba
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I never considered putting toggle bolts through a stud before.. that's not a bad idea.. but what I have done in teh past is put toggle bolts through the drywall area.. I used drywall screws on the stud part..
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Condo walls for hanging flatscreen TV?
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I never considered putting toggle bolts through a stud before.. that's not a bad idea.. but what I have done in teh past is put toggle bolts through the drywall area.. I used drywall screws on the stud part..
Wooba
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How is he wrong CDR? I work in construction and that's typically how it is.
interested
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I don't know if you can actually put the toggles onto the metal studs on the other side as you usually push it through the front. That could be a potential problem. I guess one can do it but it means a bigger opening, putting the screw through and attaching the toggle behind.
Wooba
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If you have the ability to attach the toggle from behind, then you might has well put plywood between the studs
interested
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If you have the ability to attach the toggle from behind, then you might has well put plywood between the studs
good point Wooba.
onfence
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Actually, this brings me to my question: how exactly does the toggle bolt tighten? Won't it just be 'free-floating' inside the wall, spinning along when I torque the screw?
Wooba
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The toggle part is pushed into the wall after it's been slightly attached to the bolt/screw. Once inside it opens then you pull the screw a bit as you tighten it. The toggle part bites into the wall.
aiekon
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How heavy will your flat screen be? I specifically chose an ultra-slim/ultra-light LED tv so that I can install just to the drywall. Samsung sells ultra-slim tv's and mounting hardware that enable you to install to drywall (and hang your tv like a picture frame). Also, keep in mind that you can't run your power cord through the wall.
Anyway, here's my current setup:
I also have to refer to a previous post of yours regarding furniture set up. We have a pretty similar layout and I mounted my tv on the wall that you want your couch against. I would really consider doing it this way for many reasons, mainly for aesthetics, flow and efficient use of space. Here's my couch (where you'd want to mount your tv):
Anyway, in a unit the size of yours more than 1 tv would be overkill. The distance from your bed to where you'd want your tv is also too far. Lastly, a bedroom should only really be used for two reasons
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onfence
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I assume the 1st time I pull it will bite and then I don't have to worry about it and just continue screwing in (since I'll then be pushing against the screw)?
How heavy will your flat screen be? I specifically chose an ultra-slim/ultra-light LED tv so that I can install just to the drywall. Samsung sells ultra-slim tv's and mounting hardware that enable you to install to drywall (and hang your tv like a picture frame). Also, keep in mind that you can't run your power cord through the wall.
Anyway, here's my current setup:
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I also have to refer to a previous post of yours regarding furniture set up. We have a pretty similar layout and I mounted my tv on the wall that you want your couch against. I would really consider doing it this way for many reasons, mainly for aesthetics, flow and efficient use of space. Here's my couch (where you'd want to mount your tv):
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Anyway, in a unit the size of yours more than 1 tv would be overkill. The distance from your bed to where you'd want your tv is also too far. Lastly, a bedroom should only really be used for two reasons
Hey, nice pix; you have good taste. Yup, I'm getting a Samsung also, it'll be 68+11 lbs for the mount, so 79 lbs total. Samsung doesn't have that mount for my size, unfortunately. For the wires, I'm just going w/ the 'trough' technique as I'm not too big on completely hiding cables.
Re sofa placement, I don't have a big wall like yours so actually I couldn't put a TV there even if I wanted to... I like the idea of only having 1 TV and will give it a go viewing not only from the sofa but also the bedroom (anyway, that is probably the only place I can logically hang the TV, w/ or w/o consideration for viewing from the bedroom).
interested
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Agree with Wooba. Toggle is loosely screwed on end of screw. Then pushed through. It self tightens in the manner he describes.
When you get it, just try one without putting it in the wall and it will become clear to you and you'll know how to do it after.
W. K. Lis
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Coltaine79
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OP: Consider reading my thread link
I initially thought my unit-separation wall was metal stud drywall too, because I *thought* it was making a hollow noise when I knocked... when my installer came, he laughed and confirmed it was drywall-on-concrete. Whatever noise I heard, he said it was probably due to a tiny gap between the drywall layer and the concrete. He appeared to use a hammer drill with Tapcons (blue screws) to install the mount's bracket. The drill made an absolutely horrendous EXTREMELY LOUD screeching noise as it dug into the concrete; whatever doubts I still had by that point, were easily laid to rest. After installing, he invited me to do some pull-ups on the bracket. I did about 5 and it didn't budge (I'm 175 lb).
This happened about 3 mo. ago and I've been enjoying my wall-mounted TV since then...
Maybe in downtown they're all metal stud drywall, but drive around NYCC/North York and everything under construction here has concrete walls between units. Just as it's always been...
I initially thought my unit-separation wall was metal stud drywall too, because I *thought* it was making a hollow noise when I knocked... when my installer came, he laughed and confirmed it was drywall-on-concrete. Whatever noise I heard, he said it was probably due to a tiny gap between the drywall layer and the concrete. He appeared to use a hammer drill with Tapcons (blue screws) to install the mount's bracket. The drill made an absolutely horrendous EXTREMELY LOUD screeching noise as it dug into the concrete; whatever doubts I still had by that point, were easily laid to rest. After installing, he invited me to do some pull-ups on the bracket. I did about 5 and it didn't budge (I'm 175 lb).
This happened about 3 mo. ago and I've been enjoying my wall-mounted TV since then...
Maybe in downtown they're all metal stud drywall, but drive around NYCC/North York and everything under construction here has concrete walls between units. Just as it's always been...
Granny
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Option 1:A) Use a Steel Drill bit (make sure you ARE catching the steel stud). B) Use Butterfly screws (big ones). C) Say a prayer to the Gravity Gods
Option 2: Don't do it.
Your builder should have offered you a reinforcement option for the wall where you want to hang the T.V. They would have raised the wall plug and cable outlet as a second option. I know mine offered these options when we bought our place, but we dididn't bother with it.
onfence
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Thx for the added info. I'm curious why ppl are saying that metal studs are weak...so that they can't even hold a TV? I'm confused because aren't they supposed to support the floors of a building? Or are there concrete beams elsewhere in the building to do that?
interested
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They are solid to hold drywall in place but they tend with weight to torque. At least, that is what I have found.
Still, as Wooba said, better to use them than nothing as I did and just put up toggle/wing screws. Also, Wooba's point that if there are water lines (especially if the wall is in common with a bathroom wall or kitchen wall), if there is a leak, drywall weakens and you may lose the TV. As I said, mine should have no water lines as it was in common with living room/dining room walls off the bedrooms.