Towered
Superstar
Nice that city staff are not recommending lease renewal for the next 50 years - this could become our only shot at closing this thing within our lifetimes.
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rbt
Senior Member
Canada Infrastructure Bank? Deluce has strong pull within the Conservative Party.
picard102
Senior Member
I don't think they'd need to pay the city anything. The city exists at the provinces will.
generalcanada
Senior Member
There's a reason I mentioned Ontario place in that comment, because had Chow not backed off, the city could have fought that expropriation for a long-time causing delay to the build of the spa.
Could they hypothetically hand wave something into law to take over the land? Unless the province is going to absorb the city itself, I'm not a lawyer, but expropriation law is pretty well settled. It would be hard to find a way to do so
dowlingm
Senior Member
Fought it how? The Ontario courts have made it clear, and recently, that what the province says goes where municipalities are concerned.
generalcanada
Senior Member
Well yes but no.
The Ontario Government can change laws relating to the city they made at any time. Including the borders of cities and election law.
What they didnt say was that the province could simply take land owned by the city.
Ford government to expropriate land from City of Toronto for Ontario Place | Globalnews.ca
The Ford government is expected to table legislation that would expropriate the land from the city and give it $8 million in return, Global News has learned.
globalnews.ca
The land has to be owned by someone.
When I mentioned a hypothetical where they wouldn't need to expropriate, I meant things like redefining city borders to specifically exclude Ontario Place.
That is most likely illegal though because of property rights.
That said, expropriation is the most likely way forward if the lease isnt renewed
evandyk
Senior Member
I don't think (but don't know for certain) that the provincial government would have the ability to expropriate this land for the purpose of running an airport, since airports are core federal responsibility. Typically a government authority can only expropriate land for purposes that it's authorized to pursue.
hawc
Senior Member
I'm pro runway expansion (like Chow) so.... I assume I'm at odds with the rest of Urban_Toronto on this one also?
If the Island needs more park space we can kick all the squatters off Ward's Island.
If the Island needs more park space we can kick all the squatters off Ward's Island.
generalcanada
Senior Member
Again not a lawyer, this could be the case, if it is. PP will expropriate instead of ford
Northern Light
Superstar
Is that what our Mayor is in favour of.............? LOL
There are far more issues at play that whether some or all of the current airport lands might one day be park space.............
Its a good deal more complex.
evandyk
Senior Member
Maybe, but Ford cares about Toronto in a petty personal way that PP does not. It may not be a top-of-mind issue for a federal Conservative government (though as pointed out above, the owner of Porter is well-connected with them, so it may be).
hawc
Senior Member
Yup. I was surprised to read it too. But Chow is 100% in favour of a limited runway expansion for safety reasons. She said she's not in favour of expanding airport or jets or anything else but IS in favour of runway lengthening for safety reasons.
Northern Light
Superstar
That's key.
Which is different, as you note, from broadly supporting airport expansion.
I would also clarify that there are different versions of RESA compliance and its important to understand both the short-term and longer term consequences of them all, which may extend well beyond the obvious.
Northern Light
Superstar
FWIW; for interested parties this item is up at Executive, right now:
Allandale25
Senior Member
Who is paying for Option 1 if that's what they go with?