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2025 Canadian General Election

Our blundering Elections Canada only looks good compared to the U.S. system​


'Any time an elector misses their opportunity to vote, it is something we take seriously', says Elections Canada. Not seriously enough!

From https://nationalpost.com/opinion/selley-elections-canada-blunders

Election days, both Canadian and especially American, are among the opportunities Canadians take to express publicly their belief in Canada’s general superiority to their southern neighbour.

None of America’s gerrymandered districts, malfunctioning technology, hanging chads, hours-long queues to vote or endless legal battles for us. Just a paper ballot and a golf pencil and hand counting, and a result within hours of the polls closing.

Alas, Elections Canada did not cover itself in glory on April 28.

First, with polls still open in most of the country and many Canadians eagerly in search of information — information as basic as where to vote — Election Canada’s website crashed. Officials confirmed it wasn’t any kind of outside attack (good?), but rather an internal error (bad!). And when it implemented a “contingency website,” apparently designed for just such an eventuality, it lacked that most basic function: The ability to enter your postal code to find out where to vote.

Elections Canada’s website isn’t what you would call slick, and slickness absolutely should not be a goal. The pursuit of “better” government websites, to say nothing of apps, is one of the many places where public money goes to die in terror. When the website works, it works just fine. But if its antiquated front end bespeaks an antiquated back end, especially knowing what we know about foreign interference, parliamentarians need to get to the bottom of that.

Also this week, Elections Canada had to issue an extraordinary (or so you would think) statement confirming that it “deeply regrets that some electors in Nunavik (in Quebec) were not able to cast their vote.”

Voting in the Far North involves fly-in polling stations. It’s complicated, important work to which no one south of 60 would ever give any thought — and Elections Canada never seems to give it enough thought, either. “Federal election voting closing @ 2:30 p.m. due to unforeseen circumstances,” a sign on the polling station in Salluit, Que., population 1,580, 62 degrees north latitude. Ho hum, no big deal.

“In several cases, it was not possible to recruit local teams. In other cases, harsh weather conditions have prevented access to communities,” Elections Canada said in a statement Monday. It has a contingency website, but not a contingency for harsh weather or lack of local poll workers in Nunavik? Ludicrous. What happens in a winter election?

This happened last time around too, notably in the northwestern Ontario riding of Kenora. “There were no polling stations on election day in three fly-in First Nations, including Pikangikum, Poplar Hill and Cat Lake,” CBC reported in 2021. “(And) voter cards … had incorrect information about polling stations.”

“Any time an elector misses their opportunity to vote, it is something we take seriously — something we take personally — and we’re working to ensure this doesn’t happen again,” an Elections Canada spokesperson told the public broadcaster.

“Any time an elector misses their opportunity to vote”? This isn’t like Burger King giving you fries instead of onion rings. This is the most simple, comprehensive failure

Not that this should make it any more or less concerning, since every vote is worth the same under law, but Abitibi—Baie-James—Nunavik—Eeyou is no sure-thing riding for any party. Only 2,197 votes separated the Liberal winner Mandy Gull-Masty from Bloc incumbent Sylvie Bérubé. It’s not inconceivable this disenfranchisement could at some point make the difference between a Liberal or Conservative government.

Voting by mail would be one obvious solution. But Canadians should never be forced to vote before election day. As is often the case nowadays, advanced polling opened for last Monday’s election before any party had even released its platform. Mail-in ballots must be received by election day to count, and while I’ve never been to Ivujivik, Que., 62 degrees north latitude, population 412, I’m guessing the mail service to Ottawa isn’t the most reliable thing in the world.

Perhaps the most obvious solution is to allow mail-in ballots postmarked no later than election day. If we have to wait a little longer for ridings with fly-in communities and other logistical challenges to be decided conclusively, so be it. But while voting by internet isn’t something we need or should be pursuing in general, surely that’s also a reasonable workaround option for places like Nunavik.

It’s not like we’re talking about very many people: just 89,087 in Abitibi—Baie-James—Nunavik—Eeyou, 61,962 in Kenora, 36,858 in Nunavut, 26,655 in Labrador. My Toronto riding has 121,703 people, incidentally. The population-per-riding across this vast democracy ranges from 36,858 in Nunavut to 38,583 in Prince Edward Island to 116,589 in Ontario. That’s not Elections Canada’s fault; that’s the not-very-compelling system they were given to administer. But it’s another great reason not to be too smug about our elections.
 
I very much support this idea.

But it doesn't seem to have ever had much traction.

We have a term for it, which most will recognize 'Carpetbagging' a term from the U.S. Civil War referring to people who temporarily relocate for short term opportunity.

To me its a matter of aligned interest. You should be in the same proverbial basket as those you seek to represent, as much as is practical. I would also love to donations to local candidates restricted to those living within the riding in question.

There should be a 4 year residency requirement - roughly the length of a stable government.

AoD
 
Aye. This is straight up "seat/riding shopping".

On the flip side, Carney might be allowing this to happen knowing that Pierre Poilievre will essentially be indebted to him. Perhaps a deal was struck?
Little known tidbit... both Damien and Pierre are going to pocket almost a hundred grand each from this. PP gets it because all MPs who lose an election do (they call it severance, and it makes sense for a variety of reasons in most cases) but Damien also gets severance for resigning (which makes a lot less sense). So there's a lot of $ available to grease the wheels.
 
I know it’s unlikely to happen but it would be funny if he lost this one too.
I wonder if the Longest Ballot Committee will open an Alberta chapter.

There should be a 4 year residency requirement - roughly the length of a stable government.

AoD
You would have to have a workaround for the PM and Opposition Leader whose residences are fixed. For that matter, you would have have a workaround for any member who chose to up stakes and move to Ottawa for their term and tret their home ridings s visits. Even after all of that, I doubt the courts would view such a restriction as a 'reasonable limit' on Sections 3 and 6(2) of the Constitution, but ya never know.
 
Are they doing anything about the riding in the north where they closed the polls early and some people who were there at the right time couldn't vote?
 
Are they doing anything about the riding in the north where they closed the polls early and some people who were there at the right time couldn't vote?
It's far worse than that. Some places never even had a ballot box arrive.

And the margin is pretty thin (Nunavut). If I were in charge, I'd void the thing, and do it again properly.

Also, it looks like with the validation, that the Conservative lead in Windsor-Tecumseh has closed from 233 to 77 - I think that 71 would have been an automatic recount.
 
Edit/Update: And another flipped again...


...keep in mind there are 3 ridings in dispute between validations and automatic recounts here due the winnings being at ridiculously small margins. So hold onto your seats (no pun intended), this may go on for a bit.
 
It could; but they don't do it that way. They record by polling station, not by the, er, "postcode" of whomever does the voting (and with good reason; as your vote is confidential, so it runs the risk of giving your voting choice away)
I don't see how it "runs the risk giving your voting choice away" more if you vote in advance, than it would on election day.
It's the same voter information card we hand over to them in either case, that lists a poll number for both the election day and advanced days (and not just "the, er, "postcode" of whomever does the voting").
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They then draw a line through your name on the list they have in front of them. You're on the list of voters prior to the election, before you or they know if you're going to vote in advance of election day.
I don't see how or why they somehow have to record voter data differently for advanced voting (if this is indeed what they do) than on election day.
 
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I don't see how it "runs the risk giving your voting choice away" more if you vote in advance, than it would on election day.
It's the same voter information card we hand over to them in either case, that lists a poll number for both the election day and advanced days (and not just "the, er, "postcode" of whomever does the voting").
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They then draw a line through your name on the list they have in front of them. You're on the list of voters prior to the election, before you or they know if you're going to vote in advance of election day.
I don't see how or why they somehow have to record voter data differently for advanced voting (if this is indeed what they do) than on election day.
Well, here's how it goes.

To take figures from 2021: again, using Parkdale-High Park as an example

If you voted on e-day in polling station #9 (roughly bound by Keele/Annette/Dundas/Humberside), you'd be part of this figure: NDP 60 votes, Lib 56 votes, CPC 14 votes, PPC 7 votes, Green 2 votes.

If you voted in advance, you'd be in polling station 605, which extended from the Junction to Keele & Bloor, encompassing at least 9 "regular" e-day polling locations, and went: 462 NDP, 367 Lib, 99 CPC, 46 PPC, 19 Green, 4 Marijuana.

The vote you cast in advance does not go into the figure for polling station #9. Yet as many an electoral analyist will tell you, it's the smaller-scaled e-day polls which convey (or ought to convey) more of the in-depth electoral character of a place than the advance polls...
 
But the point of an election is not to gather fine-grained data about where people on a specific street voted. It's to elect someone to represent the riding. I'm sure politicians love to have that very fine-grained data so they know which doors to knock on next time, but it's not in the mandate.
 
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Vancouver Kingsway MP Don Davies will serve as the interim NDP leader until the NDP holds a leadership convention and elects a new fulltime leader.

 
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But the point of an election is not to gather fine-grained data about where people on a specific street voted. It's to elect someone to represent the riding. I'm sure politicians love to have that very fine-grained data so they know which doors to knock on next time, but it's not in the mandate.
And as I've said before, if we're to use a travel analogy, it's like putting all the eggs into the "destination" basket without regard to there being anything meaningful to the journey.

And it's a subtle reason why Elections Canada and other such authorities already *do* provide poll-by-poll data by way of open access.
 

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