Northern Light
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News Coverage seems to confirm that the Shooter at the Trump rally is dead; and it appears one audience member is as well.
- The Guardian
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2024 United States presidential election
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rdaner
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Sorry! I saw a friend who is a Canadian in NY and she said a lot of people are freaking out about the prospect of another Trump term. She is thinking that her longer term plans of coming back may be moved forward as are many other expats in her circle.
I know that US citizens moving abroad is a bit of a joke here but there are two big differences from the first term: he didn’t expect to get elected and took awhile to get organized however this time his supporters are ready. And the nomadic thing is now mainstrean.
And as the saying goes ‘when there is instability abroad it is good for Toronto!’
Northern Light
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Some may, I'm not sure I expect a mass exodus though, the prospect of Trump winning has been real for a few months, and to my understanding Canadian emigration to the U.S. is up, not the other way around.
I'm not sure why any increase in Toronto's population would be viewed as desirable at this time (though that's happening anyway), it simply exacerbates the housing crisis, and will mean more homelessness and poverty.
I don't think I've ever heard that saying, and I'm not sure I agree with it either.
rdaner
Senior Member
^I got wires mixed as I made that post before I saw the news! Lol
I actually read that quote in an academic paper in university and it perfectly describes specific events abroad and the Toronto real estate market at all levels. Just think about the
Iranian Revolution, Uganda, collapse of the Soviet Union and now Ukraine and Afghanistan.
Now many western cities experience a surge when the middle class abroad gets rattled but our grumpy little burg is a favourite due to its long term stability, multiculturism and a large number of existing ethic communities.
I actually read that quote in an academic paper in university and it perfectly describes specific events abroad and the Toronto real estate market at all levels. Just think about the
Iranian Revolution, Uganda, collapse of the Soviet Union and now Ukraine and Afghanistan.
Now many western cities experience a surge when the middle class abroad gets rattled but our grumpy little burg is a favourite due to its long term stability, multiculturism and a large number of existing ethic communities.
christiesplits
Senior Member
In the same way security was increased after the failed assassination attempt of Ronald Reagan, I think you'll see new enhancements for U.S. presidents moving forward. Probably fewer rallies in open events (arenas and gymnasiums over fields), less casual "mainstreeting" events in public, and more rigorous background checks for those who attend rallies.
jje1000
Senior Member
Gonna disagree, people talk up a big storm about moving but barring any real physical threat (like the draft), most of them chicken out in the end.
Better to whine on x than to uproot one's entire life and take a hefty paycut moving to Canada.
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lenaitch
Senior Member
We'll have to see if it moves the needle much. I don't follow the numbers but the electorate in the US is roughly into thirds (Dem, Rep, undecided). The core of each party is relatively stable but it's the middle undecided that everyone goes after.
I saw a few photos of him in different positions after the shooting. He had his raised fist in all of them except when he was on the ground. He looked like frakkin' Mussolini.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Why are you apologizing? Anyway, there are tens of millions of Americans who will vote for Trump. So, the freak out is not universal.
tiffer24
Senior Member
It will be a lot of fun watching Prime Minister Poilievre grovel at the feet of President Trump while he destroys the Canadian economy.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
I wonder how PM Harper would have dealt with Trump had the former won the 2015 election.
tiffer24
Senior Member
What does Harper have to do with anything? He had a humiliating loss in 2015. Remember?
kEiThZ
Superstar
Much more likely that a Trump administration cracks down really hard on immigration and many of these people are actually forced to go home.
Admiral Beez
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If you’re in a country illegally, you’re not an immigrant. You’re a squatter. My family and I waited in a queue back in the UK, completed all the paperwork and waited for acceptance by Canada. Those are immigrants.
kEiThZ
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Who said they are there illegally?
Are you aware of TN visas to the US?
When I said he'd force them to go back, I wasn't talking about illegals. I think a future Trump administration is going to crack down hard on legal immigration. Just like he did last time. Remember the "Muslim ban"?
Admiral Beez
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Understood. Unlike yourself, much of the Democrat base seems to not make the distinction.